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Hi All,
Just wondered if anyone else out there, suffered from Tinnitus?
I've has this really frustrating condition for around 18 months now and hoped that one of the positive benefits of becoming vegan, would be that it might help my tinnitus but as yet, to no avail.
Apparently, there is no known cure for tinnitus and the research that I've done, suggests that it could possible be an early warning sign for either heart disease or diabetes, or both and wondered if any other members have any information or advice?
The first 3 months were the worst for me because the constant high pitched noise in my head, 24/7, was just driving me absolutely crazy and really affecting my sleep patterns too, which in turn, affected my mood and concentration, etc...
One of the things I've noticed, since becoming vegan, apart from significant weight loss, over the last 4 months, is a general sense of well-being, increased energy and concentration and thankfully, improved sleep.
But the tinnitus means that the constant high-pitched noise in my head, is the last thing that I hear before falling asleep and the first thing that I hear when I wake up in the morning!
Any help or advice, would be greatly appreciated!
Thank you.
Love, light and healthy eating...
Peter
Permalink Reply by Peter David Ebdon on Ok, thanks Harley...
When is your book coming out?
Since becoming a member here, I've bought The China Study, 80/10/10, The World Peace Diet, Dr Esselstyn's book on reversing heart disease and also Dr Neal Barnard's book, on reversing diabetes.
All the best, Peter
Permalink Reply by ola johansson on I saw a documentary about people with tinnitus that healed their ears!
they were traveling to Bolivias highland and lived there for a few weeks and it was healed.
As far as I remember it was about 2500 meter in altitude.
but it would probably work anywhere
I will se if I can find more info about it.
good luck!
Permalink Reply by ola johansson on I also suffered from tinnitus, but just a week or so.
because I was listening on too loud music, turned the music down after that.
now a few years later i can listen to high music without problem.
I just stop if I feel some sign, I did the other time but didn't cared about them.
Permalink Reply by Paul on Hey DR, some info indicates large long term doses of b12 may challenge liver or kidneys. What's your take on this?
Permalink Reply by Peter David Ebdon on Hi Ola,
Thank you for your reply.
Tiinitus, as you know, is a very unpleasant condition and I'm hoping that my change to a vegan lifestyle, might help me, long-term.
I've been vegan for 7 months now but still have the tinnitus.
I don't really know how it developed but I travel and fly a lot and have also had quite a stressful job, as a professional sportsman, for over 20 years now...
I was advised on this forum, that my tinnitus may have been the result of having amalgam mercury tooth fillings in my mouth, for many years (now removed) and there is also another train of thought which suggests that B12 deficiency, which I also have and recently started a course of hydroxocobalamin injections for, could be to blame, too...
Either way, I'd certainly be interested intrying your recommendation, of altitude therapy!
Thank you, once again, for your replies...
Kind regards,
Peter
Permalink Reply by Miriam P. on Hi Peter,
I was at three long music sessions this past weekend and have had noise-induced tinnitus all week now, but the ringing is starting to fade. I had gotten haphazard about supplementing with B12, and adding that back has helped. The other thing that has helped in a big way was reading last night about pernicious anemia, associated with low B12 levels. I started putting dried thyme on my salad and within hours the buzzing dropped in volume. Thyme is high in non-heme iron. Today the volume of the ringing is much less than it was during the day yesterday, and I am hoping with consistent B12 and thyme, it will continue to diminish to normal. You may want to do some googling on pernicious anemia.
Hope this helps,
Miriam
Permalink Reply by Peter David Ebdon on Hi Miriam and Christian,
Thank you very much for your replies.
It's been 2 years now, since I first developed Tinnitus and it hasn't got any better, or worse.
Another 30bad member suggested that it might have been caused by mercury amalgam fillings and possible long-term mercury poisoning and I will certainly look into the chelation therapy but as yet, I don't know what possible side effects there might be, with that treatment?
I recently started to see a Reiki master, in the hope that Reiki might possibly help my Tinnitus but as yet, it hasn't made a difference to it, although the Reiki sessions themselves, have been really fascinating and have been quite spiritual experiences for me; certainly something which I've really enjoyed, would highly recommend people try and something which I intend to continue.
You mentioned B12, Miriam (what a lovely name, by the way) and I am, in fact, B12 deficient.
I initially started a course of 4 injections of 1000mg of Methycobalamin but because of travelling through work etc, I've actually not had another B12 injection for over 4 months.
Perhaps after that length of time, I should be feeling 'out of it', I'm not entirely sure but I don't for some reason.
I'm mainly raw vegan now and have never felt better; certainly my health has improved considerably, since becoming vegan and interestingly, I read somewhere, that B12 deficiency, can sometimes be caused by an abnormal balance of gut flora, which in turn, can be caused by the liver not functioning properly...(I had a very, very high blood liver count, last year)
The vegan diet, over the last 11 months, has reduced my blood liver count from 300 (30 is a normal reading) to just 29 now, which I'm very happy about, obviously.
Maybe, if my liver is now functioning normally, this may have also affected by gut flora balance and I might actually now be producing enough B12? (I honestly don't know)
Strangely enough, when tested, my intrinsic factor is working normally, which means that my B12 deficiency was either caused by my vegan diet, exclusively, or possibly a combination of my liver and gut flora not working efficiently enough...(again, I can't be sure)
Either way, I'm feeling great and am loving organic fruits and vegetables every day, along with organic salads and organic fruit and vegetable juices, too!
I love being vegan and do my best, to spread the word, whenever I can because we all know someone with type 2 diabetes, cancer, arthritis, etc, etc and becoming vegan, gives our bodies the best possible chance of repairing and rebuilding our immune systems, IMHO...
I'll do some research on thyme, thank you, as nothing, thus far, has had a positive impact in reducing or eliminating my Tinnitus, which really is a very frustrating condition...
Thank you once again.
Love, light and healthy eating...
All the best,
Peter
Permalink Reply by Christian on I have tinnitus and nerve damage in my left ear ( i am a drummer ) for around 4 years. I have been vegan for nearly 10 and can say it has not really helped although I was vegan already when the crickets, dj and whistling orchestra started so i do not have a lot to compare it back too.
As far as help goes I tend to try to just forget about it as none of the suggestions from other musician friends really worked.
But here are some of them if you wanna try. You have probably heard all of these anyway.
have music or radio on softly in the back ground when trying to sleep.
try a sound pillow
one friend would burn an oil/incense he liked the smell of, said it relaxed his body
use dim/little lighting in his house to help his body tell him it time to rest
all of the other suggestions include many things that are not really advised here teas/herbs but seem to basically be based around making you sleepy and relaxed.
Permalink Reply by dveganforhealth on Peter,
I am so very, very sorry to hear of your suffering. In May of this year, I took a fourth blast of loud, piercing noise to my ear, through my headset, during the course of my duties as an air traffic controller. There was no escaping it. It was attributed to an equipment malfunction, but the damage is done. I suffer 24/7 tinnitus, hyperacusis, dizziness and moderate to severe headaches. After working with a local Ear, Nose and Throat Specialist and a local Neurologist, I've been referred to and have just recently consulted with the lead doctor from the University of Virginia Otolaryngology department. Next month I will be custom fitted for a device called a "masker". The concept is to train the brain to focus on the "pink noise" presented by the device instead of the tinnitus your brain is currently hearing. With the guidance of a well-trained audiologist, a patient can expect an 80% success rate. I'm especially hopeful in that this treatment does not involve pharmaceuticals. There is some reading on the subject of Tinnitus Retraining Therapy at
http://www.tinnitus.org/home/frame/THC1.htm
The key is the audiologist must not just hand you the device and say, "Good luck!" It is a process and takes time, but correctly administered, it will be worth the effort. There has been a great deal of research and treatment in the UK on the subject as there are many call centers and there have been too many on the job injuries associated with people wearing headsets and taking loud blasts through them for unexpected reasons.
A colleague of mine has gone through the same torture of severe tinnitus a few folks have previously mentioned in other posts. In fact, she often says she wishes she could slice off her ear to stop the tinnitus. It is a horrible, invisible phantom that follows you everywhere, always. Mine makes me physically ill, and coupled with the hyperacusis, it is double the torment.
I wish you peace, and fast and full healing.
Please feel free to message me if there is anything further I may answer.
Permalink Reply by Peter David Ebdon on Thank you for your replies, dveganforhealth, Tobias H and Delight,
Although I have just got used to my Tinnitus, I feel that in my own case, it may have happened for a reason because after I went for some blood tests, I discovered that I had a serious liver condition, that I might otherwise have not found out about, until it was too late; so I must say that I'm extremely grateful for that.
A vegan lifestyle of 11 months now, has completely reversed my liver condition and my liver blood test results are now normal.
Also, through being a member here, plus doing lots of other research, I've been able to help other people too, with various conditions, which makes me feel very happy, that I can make a positive difference, in the health of my friends and family.
I encouraged my Mum to give up dairy products, which she did and within 4 months, she almost completely reversed the chronic rheumatoid arthritis, which has troubled her for 15 years.
Also, a friend of mine was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer, approximately 5 months ago, at the age of 42; he has never smoked in his life.
I recommended that he give up meat, dairy, alcohol, salt, sugar and all processed foods and that he concentrated on organic fruits and vegetables and made as many organic fruits and vegetable juices as he could, everyday, to boost and hopefully repair his immune system, as much as possible, as prescribed by Gerson Therapy (see The Beautiful Truth on youtube).
He has done this, very strictly but has also now had 4 courses of chemotherapy too; initially, his terminal diagnosis meant that his doctors advised him that he may possibly be able to extend his life briefly, if he underwent chemotherapy.
Just over a week ago and a day before his 43rd birthday, he visited his doctor, who was delighted and amazed to report that his tumours and shrinking and that he has responded so well, that they are now looking to 'cure' his terminal lung cancer, instead of just extending his life, for a short period.
I am so thrilled and happy for him and his family and I genuinely believe that the healing powers of organic fruits and vegetables and their juices, have made a significant impact, on his amazing recovery, as they did for Jay Kordich, meany years ago, Dr Norman Walker (who cured himself of cancer in his 30's too and lived to 117) and countless others, too.
I also went to see a friend of mine, yesterday, who has been suffering from Type 2 diabetes for almost 2 years, so I spoke to him about a whole foods, plant based, vegan lifestyle and gave him a copy of Dr Neal Barnard's wonderful book on reversing diabetes; hopefully, he'll take his recovery into his own hands, too...
Looking back on things now, a lot of good, has come out of me developing Tinnitus and then going to get that initial blood test, for which I'm truly grateful and very, very thankful.
I should also add, that I was the joint guest speaker, at the opening of the Bagnall Centre for Integrated Health in Chesham in the UK, earlier this year, with the wonderful Beata Bishop, who beat stage 4 skin melanoma over 30 years ago, by adopting Gerson Therapy and she also wrote a wonderful book called A Time To Heal, detailing the trials and tribulations, concerning her recovery.
In a strange twist of fate, that evening I met the owner of the above health centre, a lovely woman called Joanna Hill, who has many years experience of dealing with cancer patients and she very kindly spoke to my friend and gave him advice, after he was diagnosed with terminal lung cancer...
So, all in all, developing Tinnitus, which may have been my body's way of letting me know that I had a serious problem and then going for that initial blood test, may not only have saved my own life, it may have also allowed me to help others, through what I've learnt with the subsequent research and through the wonderful people that I've met since, on this journey...
Wishing everyone, love, light and healthy eating...
All the best,
Peter
Permalink Reply by Tobias on I too have it.
I'm a musician and have sort of mistreated my ears with headphones (making music late at night) in my teens.
Now I professionally produce electronic music and DJ, but I prefer to stay in the studio and work shorter periods of time on low levels of audio instead of DJing at clubs like I used to do.
I also think my short-sleep habits of the past 14 years contribute to not giving my ears and rest of the body to recover from loud sound exposure. Over time things get less, but a few 'beeps' remain very subtly.
Interesting to read about B12... I have to look into that. I hope there's still some kind of definitive cure.
Permalink Reply by Delight on There is a supplement called "RingStop" that is supposed to help tinnitus. (I don't know if it does or not - and the capsules may contain gelatin, so beware.) But one of the important ingredients in there is Vitamin B12 in the form of methylcobalamin. They say that the other forms of B12 won't help - it needs to be the methylcobalamin form.
Good luck!
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