Hey,
in the last months ive often checked my teeths. i hoped that my two holes will close up naturally during this lifestyle. Now there are about six holes in my teeths and im very disenchanted! I think i have to quit my low fat raw vegan lifestyle! im vegetarian for 4, vegan for 3 and (hclf) raw for one year. i always had the best tooths and no holes (as meateater, vegetarian, vegan). Now I eat a lot of calories, always on 811 or 955, checking my caloric intake daily (cronometer) and had 3000-5000 calories a day. I ate a lot of very ripe organic bananas or apples, sometimes durian, melon, (wild) greens and many vegetables etc.. I really dont know what to do, i love the way i eat but my tooths hurts very often when i'm eating fruit. I dont want to leave the "raw"-movement and i feal so great instead of my teeths. But six holes are enough.. I think that i will try the cooked 811 without a lot of fruits till tomorrow. I think I have to try cooked quinoa, buckwheat, oat, potatoes, sweetpotatoes etc. but i dont know how my body will react.
I love to call me a raw-vegan, feel great, gained muscle and support everyone during this lifestyle but for some reason i think its not for me or not yet.
I hope that you have a lot of tips for me because i dont want to fall in to a sad cooked diet because of my teeth....
hopefully
jannis
Permalink Reply by Mates on If you want something sweet and you are tired of bananas I can highly recomend ordering dates from his website: they are based in germany! http://thenofrontiers.blogspot.com/p/products_12.html
Permalink Reply by Casey on Dates are still very hard for me to eat - they'll make my teeth hurt. I don't believe they are something the poster of this thread would want to try at this point...
Permalink Reply by Jay on i have good quality dates (medjoul and deglet nour). but now they hurt so much, i cant eat them anymore.
Permalink Reply by Leslie on Don't eat them whole, blend them with bananas and drink lots of water after words.
Permalink Reply by Sunshine Diaz on Permalink Reply by Casey on I think this is a good point! I have some nice juicing equipment but never use it anymore. I noticed a difference between drinking citrus juice and just actually eating it.
Permalink Reply by Jenee the Fruity Gypsy on rinsing after every meal has helped me. I have also started to heal receding gums since going 811 after years of eating cooked vegetarian/vegan (-:
Permalink Reply by For_The_Love_Of_Fruit on have you read 80-10-10 by Dr.Douglas Graham?? There's a whole part on teeth, you should grab it and read it.
Here's an extract (he continues longer on subject, this is just the beginning part):
"Fruit and Tooth Decay
Funny thing about got them and almost everybody has problems with them. Ask a dentist what percentage of his or her patients have problems with their teeth because they ate too much fruit. The percentage will be so low as to approach zero.
People have problems with their teeth for a wide variety of reasons, including these three:
Eating fruit, at least according to the old adage, "an apple a day keeps the doctor away," is actually good for your teeth. So what is it about dentists, teeth, and fruit that scares people? I think it is the fact that dentists don't really understand the relationship between nutrition and tooth decay all that well, yet they are asked to expound upon it daily. "
in Dr.Douglas Graham, "The 80-10-10 Diet".
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on It's not the fruit. It's not the fruit. It's not the fruit. It IS the fruit.
Doesn't matter whether it's apples, oranges, bananas, sweet fruit, acid fruit, sub-acid. It still sugar, and if it hangs around on your teeth for hours, it's going to cause tooth decay because there are (a) bacteria that feed on sugar and damage your teeth, and (b) an acidic environment caused by the sugar hanging around.
However, as people have said, rinse out during and after meals. Rinse very well. Brush your teeth at the end of the day, but very mildly and with a soft toothbrush. You don't need to brush and floss 3x a day, unless you want to destroy your enamel and damage your gums. The suggestion to eat a handful of greens after your fruit meals is great. Do that.
Also try running your finger along your gums (applying pressure) to "massage" them. This increases bloodflow etc. and will help with tooth repair.
Even if you have well water, the water in your area may have dangerously high amounts of natural fluoride (this does happen in certain areas.) Either get your water tested (dentists' offices will often do this) or check a sample for your area. If you have unfluoridated city water you should be fine.
Greens are great. But dark greens, such as spinach, contain high amounts of oxalic acid and can inhibit calcium absorption. Try sticking to lettuces and lighter stuff with less or no oxalic acid.
Permalink Reply by Jay on thanks! great reply!
i only drink tested spring water. funny that you explained the gum-massage. i tried it the last weeks intuitiv.
Permalink Reply by Ted Carr AKA Ted Carb on i logged onto 30bad just now to for this exact reason!
i too have 6 cavities and receding gums, terrible looking.
i just read that when your blood sugar is high, tooth decay can set in.
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/diabetes/DA00013
i also read that foods that are high in phosphurus, and low and calcium and magnesium, also attribute to tooth decay.
http://vegpeace.org/fruitarian.html
i'm 21 and have been on this "diet" for over 2 years, i love EVERY ASPECT OF IT except how my teeth look.
i brush 2x a day and have just begun to floss as well...i am starting to brush 3x a day now, but new habits take awhile to form.
also starting to drink and eat a lot more greens to see if it will help...
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