in the last months ive often checked my teeths. i hoped that my two holes will close up naturally during this lifestyle. Now there are about six holes in my teeths and im very disenchanted! I think i have to quit my low fat raw vegan lifestyle! im vegetarian for 4, vegan for 3 and (hclf) raw for one year. i always had the best tooths and no holes (as meateater, vegetarian, vegan). Now I eat a lot of calories, always on 811 or 955, checking my caloric intake daily (cronometer) and had 3000-5000 calories a day. I ate a lot of very ripe organic bananas or apples, sometimes durian, melon, (wild) greens and many vegetables etc.. I really dont know what to do, i love the way i eat but my tooths hurts very often when i'm eating fruit. I dont want to leave the "raw"-movement and i feal so great instead of my teeths. But six holes are enough.. I think that i will try the cooked 811 without a lot of fruits till tomorrow. I think I have to try cooked quinoa, buckwheat, oat, potatoes, sweetpotatoes etc. but i dont know how my body will react.
I love to call me a raw-vegan, feel great, gained muscle and support everyone during this lifestyle but for some reason i think its not for me or not yet.
I hope that you have a lot of tips for me because i dont want to fall in to a sad cooked diet because of my teeth....
yeh, that pineapple looks terrible and i know what a ripe fruit means. those pics are maybe 1 year old. there is a german book called waterfast kills tooth decay. but i really dont want to waterfast again. ive tried it and toooo skiny (really.. took half year to gain the weight back and i was very thin befor)
Frederic Patenaude wrote a really good article on this
Also I'm pretty sure frederic patenaude doesn't have any enamel
I had cavities before 811 and remineralized them in about half a year.
During the first few months, I had NO acidy fruits. (no tomatoes, lemons- not even oranges).
I've been there. It is scary waking up everyday to find black spots on your teeth.
I'm not saying that everyone can heal from diet alone, but I don't know how eating cooked will help...
Not sure if anyone has posted these links yet, but I found them very helpful for tooth and gum care:
(the tooth maintenance portion is in the second half of the first video)
Just some things to consider... Do you floss your teeth daily? fruit and veggies, nuts tend to stick between our teeth worse even than stuff on the SAD diet, I have noticed. And not flossing WILL cause our teeth to rot, and periodontal disease. do you go to get your preventative work done every six months (cleanings, exams)? No matter what diet we have, we really need to have our teeth attended to by professionals for preventative work consistently. You can refuse (as I do) the flouride treatment they try to give you after the cleaning, if that has been an issue for you. Do you think you may have had some dental issues prior to the raw diet? Also, if you consume alot of citrus, rinsing with water afterward is smart because the acid will wear the enamel down on our teeth. I know this must be a trying matter for you... I hope this helps a bit. :*}
I rinse my teeth with water immediately after eating anything, even before I was on 811. But Maybe you have food getting stuck in the wholes.
I use Eco-Dent tooth powder to brush, which I really recommend. The main ingredient is baking soda, and it also has dicalcium phosphate, which I read is the mineral compound that teeth will use to remineralize and restore enamel. It has no glycerin, so it doesn't coat your teeth, and thus your teeth can come right in contact with the dicalcium phosphate and it's alkalizing so it's really perfect for dental health.
In the past, eating cooked food with lots of vinegar, I felt like I had dissolved the enamel off my teeth. I did some research and found that keeping your mouth alkaline and letting your teeth be in contact with calcium diphosphate was the recommended way to remineralize. Using this tooth powder in conjunction with avoiding acidic fruit and vinegar helped me restore my enamel (and I can now eat acidic fruit again, but I'm conscious of not lingering over an acidic fruit meal for a long time). I put a pinch in my mouth whenever it felt acidic during the rebuilding phase too.
monkeys don't eat fruit all the day. I read in Jane Goodall's book about how they live and they don't chew on sweet fruit or acid frui all day long. They have a few bigger meals and they eat plenty of wild edible greens (leafs from the tree). Also they brush there teeth sometimes with a brench from a tree. Even if we are biological not so far away from them, our lifestyle is completely different. I don't mean that a raw food diet based on fruits, green leafs and veggies will give you cavity but I am sure that if we would take a monkey out from the jungle and feed him with extremely grown fruit, greens and veggies which are not harvested ripe and "optimized" for sugar he will get cavitiy.
i talked to michael delias from "die wurzel" in berlin and he said that they did an experiment with monkeys. they gave ripe conventional bananas to them and after a few months they get holes in their teeth because the bananas were "cultured and higher in sugar".. of course we dont live in jungle..
Frederic Patenaude mentioned that when he was at a wild reserve there was a sign that said don`t feed the monkeys your bananas it gives them cavities.
There were a couple of spots on my teeth that started hurting when I started this diet. Then I watched that video I just posted with Don Bennet's interview. I stopped using toothpaste and the pain went away within about a week. (and my teeth looked a lot brighter an smoother, too, after I stopped using toothpaste) I just brush w/ a dry brush and floss and have no more problems.
Before, when it hurt, couldn't eat dates, either. It drove me crazy - very painful. But now I don't have a problem.
I think what happens is we eat a sad diet and wear away the enamel. Then we start eating all these fruits.. and the enamel is already worn away and the 'dentin' of the tooth is exposed. (this is what is under the enamel) My dentist told me enamel does not have nerve endings in it, but dentin does. I notice the parts of my teeth where the dentin is exposed are what is sensitive. (I have it even on the bottom of my front teeth, which are a little worn away and also close to my gums.) I think coffee or past coffee-use also has been an issue for me, along w/ past sugar-eating, etc. Also, I grind my teeth whole lot.
But if your let your body replace the enamel naturally, which was worn away probably by previous diet, by not using toothpaste that washes it away, maybe that would help.