Hey,
in the last months ive often checked my teeths. i hoped that my two holes will close up naturally during this lifestyle. Now there are about six holes in my teeths and im very disenchanted! I think i have to quit my low fat raw vegan lifestyle! im vegetarian for 4, vegan for 3 and (hclf) raw for one year. i always had the best tooths and no holes (as meateater, vegetarian, vegan). Now I eat a lot of calories, always on 811 or 955, checking my caloric intake daily (cronometer) and had 3000-5000 calories a day. I ate a lot of very ripe organic bananas or apples, sometimes durian, melon, (wild) greens and many vegetables etc.. I really dont know what to do, i love the way i eat but my tooths hurts very often when i'm eating fruit. I dont want to leave the "raw"-movement and i feal so great instead of my teeths. But six holes are enough.. I think that i will try the cooked 811 without a lot of fruits till tomorrow. I think I have to try cooked quinoa, buckwheat, oat, potatoes, sweetpotatoes etc. but i dont know how my body will react.
I love to call me a raw-vegan, feel great, gained muscle and support everyone during this lifestyle but for some reason i think its not for me or not yet.
I hope that you have a lot of tips for me because i dont want to fall in to a sad cooked diet because of my teeth....
hopefully
jannis
Permalink Reply by William Williams on I rinse my teeth with water immediately after eating anything, even before I was on 811. But Maybe you have food getting stuck in the wholes.
Permalink Reply by Sweetfruitlover on I use Eco-Dent tooth powder to brush, which I really recommend. The main ingredient is baking soda, and it also has dicalcium phosphate, which I read is the mineral compound that teeth will use to remineralize and restore enamel. It has no glycerin, so it doesn't coat your teeth, and thus your teeth can come right in contact with the dicalcium phosphate and it's alkalizing so it's really perfect for dental health.
In the past, eating cooked food with lots of vinegar, I felt like I had dissolved the enamel off my teeth. I did some research and found that keeping your mouth alkaline and letting your teeth be in contact with calcium diphosphate was the recommended way to remineralize. Using this tooth powder in conjunction with avoiding acidic fruit and vinegar helped me restore my enamel (and I can now eat acidic fruit again, but I'm conscious of not lingering over an acidic fruit meal for a long time). I put a pinch in my mouth whenever it felt acidic during the rebuilding phase too.
http://www.eco-dent.com/special-care.php
Permalink Reply by Casey on There are claims about all sorts of chemical additives to toothpast, fluoride included. Take them with a grain of salt... Monkeys eat fruit all day and never brush their teeth or use any chemicals and don't have tooth decay problems...
I was reasonably happy with an all-natural Eco-Dent mouthwash, but now use Periobrite toothpaste and Periowash mouthwash, all natural. Sometimes I just use water - I don't plan on buying any more when what I've got runs out and seeing how I do without.
Permalink Reply by micha on monkeys don't eat fruit all the day. I read in Jane Goodall's book about how they live and they don't chew on sweet fruit or acid frui all day long. They have a few bigger meals and they eat plenty of wild edible greens (leafs from the tree). Also they brush there teeth sometimes with a brench from a tree. Even if we are biological not so far away from them, our lifestyle is completely different. I don't mean that a raw food diet based on fruits, green leafs and veggies will give you cavity but I am sure that if we would take a monkey out from the jungle and feed him with extremely grown fruit, greens and veggies which are not harvested ripe and "optimized" for sugar he will get cavitiy.
Permalink Reply by Jay on i talked to michael delias from "die wurzel" in berlin and he said that they did an experiment with monkeys. they gave ripe conventional bananas to them and after a few months they get holes in their teeth because the bananas were "cultured and higher in sugar".. of course we dont live in jungle..
Permalink Reply by Mikey on Frederic Patenaude mentioned that when he was at a wild reserve there was a sign that said don`t feed the monkeys your bananas it gives them cavities.
Permalink Reply by Morgan on There were a couple of spots on my teeth that started hurting when I started this diet. Then I watched that video I just posted with Don Bennet's interview. I stopped using toothpaste and the pain went away within about a week. (and my teeth looked a lot brighter an smoother, too, after I stopped using toothpaste) I just brush w/ a dry brush and floss and have no more problems.
Before, when it hurt, couldn't eat dates, either. It drove me crazy - very painful. But now I don't have a problem.
I think what happens is we eat a sad diet and wear away the enamel. Then we start eating all these fruits.. and the enamel is already worn away and the 'dentin' of the tooth is exposed. (this is what is under the enamel) My dentist told me enamel does not have nerve endings in it, but dentin does. I notice the parts of my teeth where the dentin is exposed are what is sensitive. (I have it even on the bottom of my front teeth, which are a little worn away and also close to my gums.) I think coffee or past coffee-use also has been an issue for me, along w/ past sugar-eating, etc. Also, I grind my teeth whole lot.
But if your let your body replace the enamel naturally, which was worn away probably by previous diet, by not using toothpaste that washes it away, maybe that would help.
Permalink Reply by ednshell on Good points, also I think SAD would make both the enamel that is there and the dentin soft and more vulnerable.
Permalink Reply by brad on dr douglass graham has found what makes teeth rot/have cavaties and its dried food so any dried food or cooked food nothing else son
Permalink Reply by brad on maby some other stuff, when i was eating a bit of coconut it made my teeth hurt
Permalink Reply by Stephanie McClennon on your teeth will not heal themselves on a cooked diet. herbs may be beneficial to pumping up your parathyroid so you can better utilize calcium. berries and melons are also incredibly beneficial.
it's not the fruit sugar that is giving you problems. it's the acids, and i don't mean orange juice. grains are acid forming. animal products are acid forming. cooked tomatoes and cooked food in general is acid forming. they rot your teeth out and steal calcium from your bones and teeth.
also, it's been a year. ONLY ONE YEAR. don't expect change too soon. invite it in, but don't sit around waiting for it.
Permalink Reply by Jelle on To give an other viewpoint in this discussion. I have had three half year visits to my dentist since being HCRV and haven't got any complains, never had any cavity! My next appointment will be over a year. I learned about teeth health from the books of Frederic Patenaude, but I guess the information shared in this topic covers it pretty well.
I use Meswak Toothpaste (does have glycerin) for the last six months and use a normal toothbrush and about weekly a Miswak/Siwak Toothbrush. I try to avoid sticky foods and if I eat them I clean my month afterwards with water only.
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