Hey,
in the last months ive often checked my teeths. i hoped that my two holes will close up naturally during this lifestyle. Now there are about six holes in my teeths and im very disenchanted! I think i have to quit my low fat raw vegan lifestyle! im vegetarian for 4, vegan for 3 and (hclf) raw for one year. i always had the best tooths and no holes (as meateater, vegetarian, vegan). Now I eat a lot of calories, always on 811 or 955, checking my caloric intake daily (cronometer) and had 3000-5000 calories a day. I ate a lot of very ripe organic bananas or apples, sometimes durian, melon, (wild) greens and many vegetables etc.. I really dont know what to do, i love the way i eat but my tooths hurts very often when i'm eating fruit. I dont want to leave the "raw"-movement and i feal so great instead of my teeths. But six holes are enough.. I think that i will try the cooked 811 without a lot of fruits till tomorrow. I think I have to try cooked quinoa, buckwheat, oat, potatoes, sweetpotatoes etc. but i dont know how my body will react.
I love to call me a raw-vegan, feel great, gained muscle and support everyone during this lifestyle but for some reason i think its not for me or not yet.
I hope that you have a lot of tips for me because i dont want to fall in to a sad cooked diet because of my teeth....
hopefully
jannis
Permalink Reply by Ted Carr AKA Ted Carb on 
Permalink Reply by Durianwriter on Hey Ted,
I'm 22 and have never had a cavity. In the last 4 months I've started losing enamel on my front teeth. It's really scary and I don't know what to do. It happened really fast - from a tiny grey scratch to scarring on several teeth.
If high blood sugar causes tooth decay, what do you plan to do?
Permalink Reply by Ted Carr AKA Ted Carb on Post pics.
Eat A LOT more greens, eat fewer meals of fruit throughout the day, maybe just have 2 big meals of fruit during the day instead of snacking on it all day...
I'm going to avoid citrus and other fruit juices too.
Also supplement with Vit D3 till I get out living under the sun all day everyday...
Permalink Reply by Casey on That diet advice is the opposite of what I've found helpful. Sun is good though! :)
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on Brushing too much can cause receding gums. It can also destroy the enamel on the teeth which protect it from tooth-eating acidic conditions caused by fruit sugar hanging around the mouth too long.
Make sure you use a SOFT brush. No need to use tooth paste, although some people use baking soda. Once or twice a day is generally enough, and don't do the 2 minute thing your dentist taught you - just a once-or-twice-over on each area to make sure no food bits are stuck.
When you floss, make sure you do not hit the gum. Dentists teach you that this "stimulates" and strengthens the gums, but it actually just damages the gums and causes them to recede. To stimulate your gums, run your fingers along them once a day, applying pressure and going back and forth as if you are "massaging" them. This will increase blood flow to your teeth, helping with repair.
Make sure there is never any fruit hanging around in your mouth! If it takes you 1.5 hours to eat 20 bananas then rinse your mouth out frequently while eating them. Cut back on the dried fruits, and on the dark greens (oxalic acid) which inhibit calcium absorption.
If you really want to take charge, get some saliva pH test strips and make sure your saliva is not too acidic after meals. You can also rinse with sea salt or baking soda and water to clean and to ensure an alkaline (tooth-building) environment.
Osteoplasts repair bone. Osteoblasts destroy bone. Osteoblasts operate in an acidic environment; they are pulling the calcium out in order to regulare pH. Osteoplasts operate in an alkaline environment. Give your mouth what it needs.
Permalink Reply by Patrick Bronckers on Cool ! Did not know this , Great post !!
Permalink Reply by Patrick Bronckers on Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on Doesn't kale, like spinach, also contain oxalic acid? Which inhibits calcium absorption, which would affect tooth repair. Dark greens are not that great to eat regularly.
Vitamin C is best gotten from fruits.
How about no chewing gums? Xylitol is a refined sugar chemical made in a factory. See DR's recent video on xylitol.
Permalink Reply by Casey on Permalink Reply by Durianwriter on If you recommend against greens, where do you recommend we get our calcium? Calcium is very bio-available in greens.
Permalink Reply by ednshell on Hey Lindsay,
Kale and Spinach (baby spinach is okay), are not tender leafy greens which is what Dr. Doug recommends. They are high in cellulose and oxalic acid.
quote from The 80/10/10 Diet book from page 27:
"It is true that cruciferous vegetables like broccoli, cauliflower, kale, collards, brussels sprouts, and cabbage are loaded with nutrients, including soluble fiber. But they also contain cellulose and other difficult to digest or even indigestible fibers. By indigestible fibers, I mean that our digestive system cannot break down these materials and must therefore eliminate them. And unlike soluble fibers, these indigestible fibers are rigid and may scratch and scrape our delicate digestive lining as they pass through...These vegetables are best digested in their youngest and most tender state. For best results, they must be thoroughly chewed or mechanically predigested via the use of the blender or shredding device...To be sure, we are capable of swallowing vegetation that contains cellulose and other rough, insoluble fibers, but such foods put a great load on our organs of digestion and elimination."
Nora Lenz explains things nicely here: ( http://rawschool.com/best-raw-foods/ )
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Cruciferous Vegetables |
Broccoli Cauliflower Cabbage Brussels sprouts Kale Bok choy (greens) Collard greens Spinach |
All are disqualified as optimal or even appropriate due to high cellulose content. Our bodies have limited ability to access the nutrients encased in the cellulose structure, so most of what we eat of them must only be eliminated from the body, which unnecessarily taxes our eliminative processes. These vegetables also contain irritating and indigestible oxalic acid and are bland or unpleasant to eat in their raw state. The exception in this category is young or baby spinach, which has what most people describe as a pleasant flavor and is relatively easy to digest in moderate quantities since its oxalic acid content is low at this point in its growth. |
Permalink Reply by IHaveALight - Chris on A couple people already said this but I think the main problem here is lack of Vitamin D. From what it sounds like you're doing everything else right, diet wise anyway. It's spring now, make sure you are getting plenty of sun exposure and if you aren't or can't do so make sure you supplement in some way. And always supplement in the winter in non tropical climates (IMO).
If you want to heal your teeth it's very important to make sure you're getting all the proper nutrition not just Vitamin D and calcium, make sure you pay close attention to everything. Obviously, B12 is the other easily deficient nutrient to think about.
Another thing I recommend is maybe considering drinking your smoothies with a straw (ideally glass) during the healing process.
And if you're going to use toothpaste make sure it not only doesn't have fluoride but also doesn't have glycerin. Better yet use tooth soap or just water. Or best option, if you can get them in Germany, use miswak sticks. This is where I get mine from in the US. http://www.miswakstick.com/ I highly recommend these.
About this guy saying that fruit is the problem, yeah I'm sure fruit can cause problems to the teeth when there is an imbalance in the system somewhere. But if your body is functioning properly on this diet without deficiency's or some underlining health problem you will not experience tooth decay from ripe fruit. How do our primate friends in the jungle keep their teeth from decaying without dental hygiene? It's not necessary when our body has everything it needs to function properly. I brush my teeth at the end of the day and that's it, don't floss and hardly rinse after meals and I don't have tooth decay. To the contrary my teeth and gum health has improved on this diet, with less dental hygiene care than before. However since there already are holes in your teeth you should take extra caution to keeping them clean until they heal.
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