"HCRV!! First day! Been a lazy nasty eating bum! I am tired of being overweight and a hypocrite!"
I went to the office at my apartment complex today to pay my rent for the month, but JoAnne wasn't there! There was a maintenance guy taking rent checks 'cause they were so short! I said, "Where's JoAnne"? He said, "She had a stroke! It's bad. She's not coming back."
Holy s***! We were planning to go to lunch last week and she begged off because she said she felt bad! Now she's had a stroke!
About a month ago I told her I was on a diet to arrest obesity-related, chronic, degenerative diseases. She said, "Do I look like I need to lose weight"? I said, "No! You look damned good. I don't know how you do it!" She said, "I don't eat."
It's too bad when people get misinformation from Big Pharma and Big Sales, and Big Money. She thinks she has to eat moderate amounts of SAD in order to stay thin! That is very hard to do--and it's not too good for your health either. Now she's had a stroke! As successful as she is at "dieting" she has still had a stroke!
Funny thing: while JoAnne was having a stroke yesterday, I was busting my diet. I went to a Mexican restaurant and ate chimichangas and watched Dallas get beat (I hate Dallas). I was sick last night and I'm sick today, and JoAnne had a stroke last night and she's not coming back today!
It could have been me! It could still be me! I've got to get serious about this program. I think God works through people, and He gives warnings, hints and last chances. I've had all the chances I deserve. I'm 69 y/o and I'm still just barely makin' it. I need to get my diet and exercise and thinking straightened out--while there's still time!
Permalink Reply by Windlord on I'm sorry to hear about your friend Joanne, Lee. I do hope that she is able to recognize this painful event as the wake-up call it is, just as you are.
This vid, which literally saved my own father's life, is a great way to gain mental momentum for the journey to health. Watch it yourself and pass it on as you're led.
Peace
Thanks Windlord,
I plan to call JoAnne today to see if she feels like having lunch tomorrow...a lunch free from animal products--and NO OIL!!! She does not yet realize what happened. Her doctor apparently gave her some story that leads her to believe this was an accident! But if I can get her attention I will assure her that this was no accident. It was caused. And if she does not stop causing coronary artery disease it will happen again! She could have another stroke before she's 50!
Whether or not JoAnne gets a wake-up call from this, I certainly have. And I'm reminded of the people I had a discussion with on this site a few days ago who accused me of being an anal personality because I passed on the admonition against moderation which Dr. Esselstyne makes in his book, and in this video.
Unfortunately, I believe that living around people who think that 90% vegan is good enough has affected my thinking. But, when I have only "a little bit" of cooked food, animal protein, sugar, sweets, etc. it is not long before I have "a little bit more" and then "a little bit more." So for me, it has to be just what Dr. Esselstyne says, "NO OIL"! No animal products! Not even a little bit! A little bit will hurt! Moderation Kills!
Why do I care if others realize this fact or not? What's important is that I must realize the truth...and perhaps I need to distance myself from others who cannot, or will not, realize the simple truth.
I thank you, sir, for your reply and for the video you included in it. It has been a wake-up call for me.
Thanks Windlord. I watched it and passed it on to JoAnne yesterday. She was eating bagel chips, taco chips, and potato chips, as we talked on the phone. She read the ingredients to me and said they were "healthy" because they contained only wheat, corn, salt and oil.
I referred her to this video and noted that Dr. Esselstyne stressed "NO OIL." "NO OIL." "NO OIL." JoAnne said she doesn't want to make a lifestyle change. She wants to be happy and have fun. She also said she doesn't have coronary artery disease, because her doctor told her so!
I felt helpless. It's like the special interests are exploiting everybody--for money--and they don't care how many people they kill with cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, processed and cooked food, and misinformation! It makes me very sad. I can't seem to help anybody! Nobody wants what I have!
Perhaps that's because I'm a 69 y/o senior citizen with sleep apnea. I weigh 195 lbs. I'm in Day 6 of 100% LFRV right now, however, and I feel this will be the time that works.
Please tell me if you were able to lose weight on this program. How much? How long did it take? How did you do it without calorie restriction or fasting? How can I lose weight?
My doctor told me that for every 10% of my body weight that I lose, I will get a return of 25% improvement in my sleep apnea symptoms. My goal is to be a "heart-attack-proof," recovered diabetic cancer survivor! Have you ever heard of such a thing? What are my chances?
I'm thinking that, under these circumstances, a 40-day water fast might be in order. Would I get negative feedback from the PK's if I tried fasting? They say it is a good way to detox, bring my cholesterol down, digest cancer cells and improve respiratory illnesses, like sleep apnea.
What do you think? It is shamefull that I got myself in this condition by doing what the doctors and nutritionists and diet centers said for me to do! I've tried all the diets, and regained all the weight I ever lost...and then some!
What should I do now?
Permalink Reply by Yulia on Check this out, Lee
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/before-and-after-photos?i...
It was posted just recently.
Thanks, Yulia, for the link. Wow! Those are some pretty convincing before and after photos! Perhaps there is hope for me. I'm on Day 6 today. I weigh 195 lbs and I've lost 2 lbs. Maybe I should try this and see what happens before I go looking for something drastic, like fasting!
Thanks again.
Lee
Permalink Reply by Happy Raw Vegan on How tall are you? 195 lbs. does not seem like it is too heavy. Anyhow, I do know that fasting is not recommended on 80/10/10. I am not one who knows all there is to know so I hope somebody else will chime in and tell me if I am wrong.
Hi Happy, I'm 5'9" tall. I weigh 195 lbs. My BMI is somewhere just under 30, which is obese. So I'm "overweight." But the problem is that I have several obesity-related, chronic, degenerative diseases (CDD's), such as: obstructive sleep apnea, cancer, diabetes, cardiovascular disease, arthritis...and I'm a candidate for dementia.
The thing all these CDD's have in comon is obesity. I've tried losing weight on 811 for 4-6 months now, and my best effort was 25 days as a 100% LFRV. Then I "slip" and eat cooked food and gain my weight back...all the way back to 200 lbs!
Now I'm tired of fiddle-fartin' around. I'm going on a 40-day juice fast in hopes of getting my weight off and being done with this BS. I'm aware that this is not recommended on 30 BAD--but I'm a special case! The best and quickest way for me to solve all my problems is to go ahead and get it done--not f*** around for 3-4 years doing it!
So I appreciate your "heads up," but I'm starting today. I feel that 30 BAD members will understand my desperation...I've already tried all the diets! Now I want to get this done!
Permalink Reply by Happy Raw Vegan on Well Lee, I like your attitude, it is much like mine. I started raw originally by going on a lemon juice diet, which was a fast, but it killed my cooked food cravings.
I have trouble staying on course with 100% raw with the high carb route. It seems silly as I feel fantastic on 811, but if I can pour a little (LOTS) of olive oil on my lettuce, I am more satisfied for some reason. I don't feel as good at all, but, who knows! It sometimes seems easier to eat a salad in 15 mins drenched in oil than it does to eat a tasty salad, low fat version, that takes 45 mins. I keep a picture of Freelee on my phone for motivation. It is one of her before and after photos.
The only health problem that I really have besides carrying an extra pound or two is migraines. I can keep them away when I stay fruity. =)
Good luck to you!!!
Happy,
I hear you about the problems staying 100% LFRV! I seem to have cravings every 10-12 days. I think that sugar, salt, fats, oils, processed foods, etc (SAD) are all addictive! I think the problem is addiction! Same as alcohol or drug addiction!
I am also concerned about heart disease, and I can tell you that pouring lots of oil on a salad is as dangerous as anything you can do from a health standpoint. Oil is a liquid form of solid fat, which causes heart disease.
I have a friend who died last night from heart disease--and he thought he was "heart-attack-proof" on Dr. Esselstyne's diet!! JoAnne is doing well.
I find it interesting that you have fasted and found that it reduces your cravings. I am considering a fast and I wonder if you would support me, or talk with me about it, if I do. I plan to send you a friends request, so we could potentially talk off-line through our inboxes, because all they like to hear here is 811.
Windlord, this is incredible! I saw that you had posted on the forum today that your father died last night! How can that be? Just a few days ago you said that this video had saved your father's life!
Now I'm afraid because the people around me are showing me that this program is very, very serious!!!
I'm so sorry to hear the new, sir. You must be devastated. Do you mind if I ask how old your father was? How he died? How long he had been "heart-attack-proof"?
We never know, do we?
Permalink Reply by Lee Price on Wow, a wake up call indeed! I heard the other day a good friend father in law has passed away to a heart attack. He was mid 50s and his own father died before him to a heart attack at 44.
You would think it would be a wake-up call for JoAnne! She's 43 and has had a cardiovascular event. I'm trying to get a lunch-date with her to talk about a book titled, "Prevent and Reverse Heart Disease," but she says she does not have coronary artery disease--this was just an accident! So now she's taking pills!
Aparently her doctor has schooled her to think like this, and I think he should possibly be shot! I tried to tell JoAnne that doctors are in business to make money--not to keep her healthy--but she says, I don't care if he makes money. I have insurance!
It's hard to compete with all the misinformation out there! Soon I'm going to let JoAnne in on the idea that this could happen again before she is 50...and again...and again...until she is a broken old lady.
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