Can someone please explain to me while plain steamed green and starchy vegetables are not good for you?
I know they are not BAD but clearly there is a reason why people are 100% raw.
Will eating plain steamed veggies stop me from experiencing all the benefits of this lifestyle?
Will eating steamed potatoes/veggies everyday make it harder for me to gain weight?
I know DR & Freelee say it is okay to eat steamed veggies when transitioning but why not long term? What is the harm that comes from them?
If someone could explain this I would greatly appreciate it!
Permalink Reply by Jessica on Thank you for touching on some science about this. I enjoy raw corn as well, I eat it almost every day. I have just been craving things like steamed broccoli, green beans, white potatoes, and sweet potatoes. I feel like it's better to eat those steamed veggies and starches rather than go back to cooked vegan junk foods that I usually fall off the wagon for.
Permalink Reply by Rhonda Richlen on I would definitely lightly steam broccoli and green beans during a transition perioed. I have even read that cooked broccoli actually releases certain nutrients. So if that's what is needed to help with the transition, I would not feel too guilty about it. I think one of the biggest problems with those trying to go 100% raw is that these foods, as well as many others, just are not as appetizing in their raw state because they are not picked fresh and eaten straight from the garden. They are stored and transported and by the time they get to the market, they are coarse and tough, in my opinion. At least for eating them raw, they are. If you were to pick green beans fresh from the garden, then they would be much more tender and juicy.
Permalink Reply by Lori Bananas on I'm really not sure WHY these things are worse, on a scientific basis. I definitely buy the fact that we wouldn't normally eat these as part of our natural diets though. I've been doing the raw thing for about three months now, and have been 100% since the beginning. At one point I decided to try cooked sweet potatoes to see if that helped with upping calories and having more energy. I had severe congestion, was blowing my nose all the time, was coughing up a lot of mucus all day, and just generally not feeling as good. Who knew? I was really surprised after only a short period of time that I had such a reaction to them. I stopped with the potatoes in my dinner salads and those issues went away.
Permalink Reply by Jessica on That's fascinating that you had those symptoms just from steamed sweet potatoes. I hope they don't mess with my digestion and give me symptoms as if I was eating just a standard vegan diet.
Permalink Reply by dangermouse on I and many others have exactly the same type of reaction to any, even "healthy," cooked foods. That alone should be enough to tell you they're not good to eat.
Permalink Reply by PK on @Lori and Jessica Regarding potatoes and tubers:
Potatoes contain an alkaloid solanin that is poisonous to humans. While cooking may reduce some of the potency, the risk of consumption is ever present. Solanin can reduce oxygenation of the blood and cause tiredness and chronic fatigue, block enzyme systems causing sour stomach and poor digestion, and poison the nerves.
Potatoes as well as some root veggies like carrots can cause cause problems like sour stomach, diarrhea, constipation, gas, bloating, and pain from these vegetables, and or slowed digestion which makes it difficult to eat enough calories during the day.
As time passes though, the reality sets in that our bodies respond best to low fat raw fruits n leafy green lettuces.
Peace, PK
Permalink Reply by Yauzich on Read this post: RAW DIGESTION - which are best choices? It's very useful, I have it bookmarked though I've learned everything from it already.
And watch this video, I think it's the best video that everyone new at 811 should see first:
Permalink Reply by Jessica on Thank you so much for these sources. I am looking over/watching both of them and they are really helpful. I am going to hold onto them for future reference as well.
Permalink Reply by PK on @Jessica,
We recommend for optimum digestion and long term health, that people eat 100% low fat whole raw fruits and tender leafy lettuces.
The number one thing people should consider is that primates and humans cannot manufacture their own vitamin C. To ward of clinical and subclinical signs of scurvy (scurvy), and maintain healthy immune systems, skin, and tissues, bones and teeth (Better Bones, Alkaline), our best sources of Vitamin C, and calcium of course, are raw fruits and tender leafy lettuces.
Other foods like grains have no vitamin C, and some foods that might have small amounts like beans and potatoes, may have the vitamin C, as well as other vitamins, minerals, and enzymes, rendered useless by cooking.
Some of the veggies might actually be from more of the legume and bean family, which, in their raw form are toxic too us. In order to render them less toxic, we have to cook them, but then cooking breaks down some of the vitamin, mineral, and enzyme content making them less useful to us.
Our digestive systems primary fuel preference is fructose from fruits, and the body will take as much as it needs and manufacture glucose, and a few other chemicals as well. The rest will pass into our intestines feeding the gut flora of which is our natural source of vitamin B and Vitamin K.
Journey of Fructose:
http://www.ajcn.org/content/76/5/911.full
Grains, legumes, potatoes, and starch based foods we can only break down into glucose, and require the use of insulin, the fat storage hormone. Compounded with any fat in the diet, one risks weight gain and diabetic symptoms. Besides glucose and glycogen, there is not much use the human body has for starches.
Some starch based foods, grains and tubers are also high in protein, and long term, this may cause an acid condition in the body which may contribute to poor bone, oral, and kidney health.
http://www.betterbones.com/default.aspx
Specifically this link:
http://www.betterbones.com/alkalinebalance/default.aspx
Fruits and fructose do not use insulin in their breakdown.
Now the last point to make here, even regarding some raw veggies, is our recommendation here:
For optimum digestion, avoid cruciferous veggies like broccoli and cauliflower, and root vegetables like carrots. Some of our members have had problems such as sour stomach, stomach pains, diarrhea, constipation, gas, bloating, and pain from these vegetables, and or slowed digestion which makes it difficult to eat enough calories during the day.
This is a list of naughty and nice fruits and lettuce greens:
http://rawschool.com/best-raw-foods/
Another thing to ask oneself is if one lived in nature, could they make a meal out of it? Some things like raw potatoes just would not be palatable, perhaps even toxic in their raw forms.
Peace, PK
Permalink Reply by Rhonda Richlen on Awesome post. Thank you for all that info.
Permalink Reply by dangermouse on Here's a good reason not to eat steamed veg.
Permalink Reply by Yulia on WOW!!!! That's is absolutely mind blowing! Thanks for the link dangermouse. :)
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