So I was talking to some co-workers today (All of whom are very good friends of mine) and they said, "so really you don't even eat cheese?" And I'm like, "no, no animal products." And they said, "but no animal dies in making the cheese. It's actually very painful for a cow to go unmilked so it's better for them to be milked." And said, "yes, animals die in dairy farms. The calves are taken from their mothers, and male calves are usually taken from their mother almost immediately, and slaughtered." And I also explained that the female cow is constantly kept pregnant for most of her life, because then she would produce milk. And they just kind of stared at me, and one said "Oh. I thought they raised the babies" and another one said, "Well don't read that kind of stuff. That's depressing. Just enjoy the pizza." and I said that's exactly why I can't enjoy the pizza. And to me it was just a real eye opener that people just don't know what goes on, and they don't know the truth about the cruelty of factory farming. I had assumed it was just a sepreration that they had in their mind, which is partly true, but it is also that they just have no idea the extent of torture that goes on ALL.THE.TIME., and it's NOT just meat farms, but dairy as well. So I don't know. It just surprised me today.
What's worse is people who KNOW that animals suffer - although they just say that efforts are continually being made to REDUCE suffering, and just a little *in their minds* suffering is ok....there is no LAW that dictates how much suffering should go on anyway :S.....SO TWISTED.
Another disturbing fact, like your friend said: "Well don't read that kind of stuff. That's depressing. Just enjoy the pizza." - really?! That's people's "solution" to the suffering? Just to ignore it and it won't be there anymore? It's really disturbing.
Keep being the shining light :)
Oh yes I agree! The people who know about it, but just want to ignore it, or pretend it isn't there, are just...not seeing the truth. And we live in the country out here in Texas, so we pass cows grazing in fields all the time, and maybe that distorts their view of where their meat is coming from, I don't know. But yeah it seems that most people's solution is to not think about it. They just create a distance between the steak on their plate, and the animal abuse it took to get it there. I know, because I was a meat eater before too, but I learned that as sad as it is to think about the truth of the matter, the better I am for it. because now I don't contribute to it. And I know I am doing something to stop it.
Thanks for your kind words. :)
A lot of people know, but purposely do not think about it.
Think about it. If you do chemical analysis of animal products, (as well as really any cooked food) they contain chemicals and tastes that are just as addicting as heroin, and not only that but we have the caloric density issues (The Pleasure Trap | Andy on Blip) that make them even MORE addicting. So we are not really dealing with "ignorance" per se, but an addiction.
In the back of their heads, heroin addicts know what they learned in grade school about the horrible things heroin does to their bodies. But they purposely ignore that information because of the high that they get when they shoot up. And if you try to confront them about it, especially when they are craving, they will be mean and nasty and offensive.
Some people are VERY willing to accept when they hear the meat industry say "Oh that's just the small minority of farms... most of our farms are like this" (Cue happy-feeling shot of farmer and family petting the cows in the small pasture.) If they believe that, they won't have to feel as bad when they eat meat or dairy or eggs.
Hang in there... someday, flesh and pus eaters will be in the minority!
I do think misinformation is a problem. When I went vegan, little more than three years ago, I knew absolutely nothing about animal cruelty. I only learnt about it much later. This information is not so easy to find if you're not looking for it. And it's very unlikely you'll ever imagine animals could possibly be treated so horribly unless you're exposed to this information.
Therefore, it is our duty to pass this information around. The death industry has made a good job hiding it from the public eye, and we cannot let it remain hidden.
greetings celeste! welcome to 30bad!!
and keep the deniers in the know!
here's what the calves go through - so show them this and they'll know for next time:
Did you realize that nearly all cows used for milk are born with tissue that should develop into horns? That's really bad news for cows born into the dairy industry, which tends to pack animals into cramped spaces where horns aren't easily accommodated. So can you guess what happens to the cows?
In order to keep the horns from developing, many farmers press red-hot irons into their heads and burn this sensitive tissue out. While this happens, the calves bellow and thrash in pain. For grown cows whose horns have already fused with their skulls, farmers may use blades or hand saws, cutting or sawing away until the horns come off, often leaving gaping, blood-squirting holes.
the video is below.
as with any 'advertising' some people need to be hit multiple times before reality registers:
Oh, this is so horrible prad! So shocking! I had no idea that this was done! Thank you prad for sharing this information with us! I can imagine that you are particularly sensitive to this hideous practice, being a horned animal yourself...
Sometimes I allow myself to completely give in and review in my mind and via videos and stuff the actual horror the animals go through, and just completely feel it...and then it becomes toooo much to bear. I feel like I just want to curl up with a broken heart and grieve beyond measure for my animal brothers and sisters who suffer this way at the hand of decadence. It's a permanent round-the-clock Holocaust. And it's just spiteful and cruel that we take the lives of our brethren and turn it into stuff like Doritos and Triple Bacon Cheeseburgers which kill us as well as the animals.
And they said, "but no animal dies in making the cheese. "
But likewise this mindset isn't enough for them to go vegetarian, is it?