This is a very simple program, and it must be easy--for normal people. I don't think it's so easy for me, however. I'm a glutton and a pleasure-seeker. I love to eat. Eating is a recreation, a hobby, an emotional escape for me. It is my form of relaxation and my retreat from stress. It is how I socialize. It's tough for me to turn down pizza, cheeseburgers, ice cream and cake--especially when other people are having such a good time with them!
I seek all kinds of pleasure and self-satisfaction from money, material things (cars, boats, houses), power, status, jobs, friends, sex, love...and when I'm frustrated in whole or in part, I turn to food for comfort! When you offer me a raw sugar beet, it doesn't satisfy my needs for self-gratification. When you offer me a ripe banana, I eat 30 of them and then I'm looking for something "with more of a kick," if you know what I mean.
I believe my problem is basically emotional; feelings, as they say. It's not the food--it's my feelings. I need something to comfort my feelings: comfort food!
I've heard of a spiritual approach to these kinds of problems, but I'm an atheist! Is this a hopeless situation? Could anyone please give me a small clue about how to handle my problems?
In fact, if you are interested in "the spiritual approach," let's be friends. I want to learn more about this approach.
Lee Mack
Permalink Reply by Macuilxochitl on You can only ever crave while undercarbed. With thirty bananas: no dice.
Permalink Reply by Mickey Raw Frugivore on Do you know how many calories you're getting a day?
How much water do you drink? And how many hours do you sleep at night?
A few suggestions:
- Try going vegan first (if you're not already a vegan) so the transition is more gradual
- If you need more "kick" after 30 bananas, eat 40 instead... or even better, 50!
- Take extremely good care of yourself and your basic needs: Do NOT restrict sleep, calories or water intake!
- If you don't already have a job you love, look for one. Generally if there's something in your life that needs to be taken care of, try to get it done before committing 100 % to HCRV
- If you need to sort out some emotional issues, you've probably got enough on your shoulders as it is - so maybe just try cooked veganism, and get your emotional issues sorted out before going HCRV?
- Talk to your friends about how you're doing this lifestyle - if they are real friends, they'll be supportive
Thanks for the really good feedback. I've pretty much done everything everybody has suggested. Getting rid of the "enemies disguised as friends" was the easiest part. Getting the emotional problems straightened out (according to Buddhism) amounts to simply renouncing the things I want and accepting reality. And the food cravings...it sounds like I should eat more! Anyway, I'm vegan now. This is Day 3, and I'm making another start at it. Today I'm having trouble with coffee. I don't think "cold turkey" is the best way to go, and I'm having trouble tapering off. I don't have a job. I'm retired on social security, thank God! I'd hate to be looking for a job in this economy!
Permalink Reply by melonhead on Learn to live in the present!!! Inhale, exhale, meditate!! Good luck!
Permalink Reply by Karen on With me, the best method for the "spiritual approach" has been to use a practice that suggested by John Sherman which isn't spiritual at all - it's more like actual - no woo. That has nothing to do with diet, but I have found that it has given me very broad awareness of myself so that I can see why I do things and eventually give them up because of it. I've given up many habits this way.
Life has always knocked me down when I take things head-on. Undermining my obstacles seems to work better.
Permalink Reply by ORGANIC811LFRV on I followed a very deep spiritual path and still follow it. Sorry, hon, this is the realm of food, not Spirit. No answers that made any sense.
However, I did find an interesting answer. The "food" us humans are consuming is transforming our body into fat and sick and a fast path to death; re-wiring our brain; messing with our emotions; and we blame ourselves!! The phood manufacturers love for us to do this. We keep on consuming massive amounts of crap and wonder why we want more. We keep on not being able to shut off this drive to eat more crap and we blame ourselves for being weak.
Of course all the manufactured phood is ringing bells with our pleasure center of our brains. Duh! This is how it is designed.
If you want to keep on being a puppet in their show, continue the path of self-destruction. Since you are here, you are trying to get off this merry-go-round. Read 80/10/10 and get on the program as though your life was worth something more than profit for them.
Because it is!
Hi Karen, Thanks for friends. I need all the skinny friends I can get! Or am I confused? You mention gaining weight in this program and you show a thin picture and a heavy picture...which is before and which is after?
I'm 68 y/o and beginning to worry about obesity-related, chronic, degenerative diseases. I have sleep apnea and that causes cravings for sugar and junk foods because I don't get restorative sleep, so my metabolism gets out of whack and I start storing fat and burning muscle for energy. My hormones get out of balance and I get hungry when I've been eating all day!
I don't think drugs and doctors are the right way to go because I see all the fat guys in wheel chairs around the V.A. Hospital. I'm thinking that there must be some spiritual secret--however, I'm an atheist and I can't stand Christianity. I'm looking into Buddhism and Hinduism right now. Buddhism has possibilities.
How do you do it? How long have you been at this? By the way, one of your pictures looks a little too heavy and the other looks a little too thin! Are you worried?
Lee Mack
P.S.: I don't have a computer. I come to the public library once a week or so and try to catch up on my email, so be patient with me, okay?
Permalink Reply by Wendy Harvey on lee in time, your body will learn to hate the foods you crave, i used to be like you but slowly my cravings and wants died one by one
Permalink Reply by Josh Fossgreen on I'm a glutton and a pleasure-seeker.
Lee, you're SO not alone. Everybody is like this and everybody feels guilty about it. Your neurology is literally designed to seek pleasure, just like every other animal on the planet. There's nothing wrong with you. Just eat bananas and breathe. Everything will work out in the end.
There's nothing spiritual that you HAVE to do. Just eat the right foods, your body will be healthier, your mind will be healthier. And what could possibly be "spiritual" that doesn't include your incredible humanness?
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