Well...Here's where I am at.
We are working toward 100% HCLFRV...It hasn't been easy since we have had to struggle with how to afford it, we have a 3 year old and a 6 year old, and my husband works crazy hours.
That said, we are both struggling to get anywhere near enough calories. He is having a hard time with the time it takes to eat enough food. Yesterday he got about 1800 calories. I am struggling with fruit.
I really don't like bananas, especially ripe ones. I just get so sick of all the sweet that I wait for dinner's salad. I got about 1500 calories yesterday.
I want to make this work and know that it won't unless I eat a lot more fruit. But feel like I am drowning in sweet...so...what do I do? Has anyone else felt this way and got through it to love their fruit over time? Any inexpensive tips for getting enough calories, avoiding cravings (cooked food seems really, really good when you want something not sweet), and learning to like my fruit (especially cheap fruit) better?
Permalink Reply by rawcelt on Danielle
I was a bit like you to start with. So I would have fruit in the morning and then green salads for lunch and dinner, with fruit between meals.
I notice that now I am quite happy to eat lots of bananas through the day and a big salad for dinner.
Don't forget there are non-sweet fruits you can eat - like tomatoes and cucumbers.
Permalink Reply by Danelle Karth on It is a relief to know that I am not alone and that it should get better. Having non-sweet fruits would help a lot. We ran out of tomatoes last night...It's also good to know I won't keel over if I have a salad more than once a day. :-P
Permalink Reply by Yogaranka on Green smoothies do the trick for me. Sometimes they are so green, I don't even taste the sweet, very ripe bananas in it.
The mindset however has to be somewhat changed. A diet is not necessarily all about eating for liking. We eat for nourishment, and fruit happens to be the most nourishing, and least toxic food. Period. You can think and dream of your cooked food all you like, but it will not get you where you want to go, right? So stop thinking of cooked foods as good options, start seeing them as not so good option. Then, it is just a matter of choice in the head.
Jay Kordich, the Grandpa of juicing said very precisely: Stop feeding the mouth whatever it wants. The mouth is dumb, it will take anything, as long as it tastes good. Start feeding the mouth with your intellect, so you choose the right stuff in today's confusing world of nutrition. I think it pretty well sums it up for me. It is all a matter of clear choice.
Wishing you luck in making this clear choice, and eating a varied diet of fruits, rather than just sticking to bananas. How about zucchinis and apples for a smoothie? Have you tried it? Add some dates for more calories if need to. How about oranges and cantaloupes? An amazing drink! Very filling.
Permalink Reply by Brian on I'm always constantly on the look for cheap and preferably organic fruit. I don't ever think this will change, at least not anytime soon.
I would not worry about not getting enough calories at the moment. Just try to eat one bite more than you did yesterday and keep going along. It took me a couple of weeks to really get my stomach accustomed to the volume of fruit I needed to eat. In the meantime I had a few pounds I could lose so it wasn't a huge deal not to get enough calories. I eventually got there and you will too!
If bananas aren't your thing try something else! Dates are great and very calorie dense. There's a whole world of fruit of there. You just have to find something you can afford, try it, and then if you love it the calories should be easy. Give me a bowl of some of the fruit I love and getting enough calories becomes an afterthought.
Permalink Reply by Luk on rice, potatoes, pasta, lentils, list goes on and on - better than try to be perfect all at once, fail and go back to cheeseburgers. Diet change may take a while. In fact 100% HCLFRV transition can take several years to some people. You may be one of them. There is nothing bad about it. As long as you go the right direction, you will eventualy get there.
Permalink Reply by Lisa Dee on That's tough - I would advise you to try more veggies like red bell peppers but the expense thing makes that kind of difficult. I guess I'm fortunate that I like the sweet. Perhaps you're letting your bananas get just a little too ripe? It's hard because one can't alway tell by appearance. I know there is an optimal "banana state" for me and if it gets slightly too ripe it is a little gagworthy. If I eat one from a bunch that is too ripe, I opt to freeze the rest for banana ice cream where the sticky sweetness is actually an asset.
I have also had your complaints about "grass and other herbivore foods." I once said that I would rather die than eat a salad. When I bought fruits and veggies in the large grocery stores I thought they were expensive. Now I live next door to a Mexican and a Mediterranean Market where they are cheaper than anything I can eat!
I'm still in transition to 100% LFRV, however, and my last "slip" was 10/1. I had a combination rice plate at a Vietnamese restaurant and paid $11.74 + $1.26 tip = $13.00 for the single combination high-fat meal. The next day I walked next door and bought a week's worth of greens and ripe fruit for $10! Then I went to Country Markets and bought a box of ripe bananas for $2.00! The dimensions on the box were about 12" X 8" X 5"! More ripe bananas than I can eat in a week!
On 10/1 I also paid $25 for a large combination pizza--which I ate in one sitting! For that same $25 I can get more than a week's worth of ripe fruit at some 4-5 local markets in my area. For example, I bought a marked Xmas melon for $0.50; two marked cantaloupes for $1; a whole watermelon for $3-4.00; a container of dates for $3.99...etc.
I believe you are seeing what you want to see. You are finding what you look for. I believe you want a pretext to return to "the good life"! I believe you may be so addicted to sugar, salt, fats & oils...SAD, that you cannot see Reality and Truth. I say that because I used to be the same way!
I used to be the same way, but my closest friend (a thin, beautiful young woman 43 y/o) had a stroke yesterday, which may be a life-changing event for her. It was certainly a wake-up call for me! I now PREFER bananas, watermelon, salads and veggies--and I'm getting honest with myself about how much they really cost (I now figure in the cost of doctor bills, insurance policies, prescription medications, and nursing homes)!
I'm now working to achieve a "psychic change" in the way I think about gluttony, pleasure-seeking, self-gratification and obesity-related, chronic, degenerative diseases. I'm beginning to see that I'm not really an objective seeker of truth.
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