Hi guys,
since going 811 I have started to get massive teeth problems.
I know people say "do not blame 811", but I think it is to blame in countries like Denmark, where it is so hard to get quality and totally ripe fruits.
I have some cavitites I can feel with my tongue and they get bigger and bigger.
My teeth have now also turned complety yellow, it is so ugly and they have some ugly colours on them.
I do not use toothpaste, I brush 2 times a day with water, rinse after meals and I always get more than the calcium I need, according to cronometer.
But I am now thinking if I should just go to the dentist?
It does not seem to improve and I do not want to risk doing anymore damage, so maybe I should just get those fillings?
what are your thougths on this?
Permalink Reply by Simplicity on A resounding "yes, go to the dentist" from this person.
I'm going to share a secret with you: I'm 26. The last time I went to see a dentist, up until this year, had been when I was 8 years old.
Suffice it to say, I was a lot like you where I had quite a few cavities, it hurt to chew sometimes, and some discoloration (not too bad, but I sure hated to smile). I went to the dentist and it made a world of difference--my cavities got filled and my teeth polished. I can now chew fruits and veggies better than ever, and I'm not embarrassed of my smile. Totally worth it--the dentist will help you with preventative care to avoid making your teeth worse, too.
Also, use some tooth soap or non-fluoridated toothpaste. Floss often, too! If you go to the dentist, make sure they use porcelain or cement fillings: NOT amalgam!
Permalink Reply by Roar of Tiger on What about gold fillings?
Permalink Reply by Adam on Hey Celine.
Yes. Please use common sense here people (not just you, but others reading). If your teeth are deteriorating and it is soley correlated with diet, you need to address the foods you are eating, or change your location. You only get one set of teeth and if you are having problems, there is a reason. Acid fruits, dates, nuts and many subacid fruits are just plain not good for your teeth in large amounts unless they are tree-ripened and your body is in a nutritionally adequate state of health.
Take care
Adam x
Permalink Reply by baba yaga on I agree, go to the dentist!
I respect your efforts to be as natural as possible, but we also ought to address the realities of our times and our environment. You're still doing a world of good for yourself by eating well, even if you go to the dentist.
I also second some form of toothpaste. And in Denmark, where your water is NOT fluoridated, it may not be such a bad idea to sparingly use fluoride toothpaste. I know most people on this site are opposed to it, and I respect that, but on the other hand, fluoride toothpaste is scientifically proven to prevent cavities. And any health controversy associated with fluoride refers to the consumption of fluoridated water, not toothpaste.
Hope your teeth feel better! : )
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on No, topical application of a toxic form of fluoride is not scientifically proven to prevent cavities. Using toothpaste is. Whether or not the toothpaste has fluoride is statistically irrelevant.
Chemotherapy is "scientifically proven" to help cure cancer. Red wine is "scientifically proven" to be good for you. What exactly is your definition of scientific proof?
The health controversy associated with fluoride refers to toothpaste as well. It is the same toxic form of fluoride - byproduct of the fertilizer/aluminum smelting industries. There is enough fluoride in a tube of toothpaste to kill a small child.
The fluoride we need is organic fluoride, a trace mineral found in plants much like other trace minerals. The form created as a toxic waste is poisonous to us.
Do not use fluoridated toothpaste. If you must use anything, use baking soda.
Permalink Reply by Roar of Tiger on In which plants are found organic fluoride?
Permalink Reply by cecilie malene on thanks guys. It is now I wish that dentist were free of charge...
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on I love how, of all the people that responded to this thread advising you to get fillings, not ONE of them (as far as I could tell) thought to mention that you should make sure you get composite fillings and NOT mercury amalgam fillings (48% mercury.) Do we really want our fellow forum members to get heavy metal poisoning?
If you really have exhausted all the options to care for your teeth (not eating acidic fruits, eating a handful of greens after EVERY SINGLE FRUIT MEAL, etc) then I suppose your only choice is to go to the dentist and get a filling. But do not get a mercury filling - shoot yourself in the hand, or the foot?
Permalink Reply by Simplicity on Um, the first person who responded to this thread replied not to get mercury fillings (ie, me).
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on Um, that's why I added a qualifier to my statement. I.E. Pre-emptive guilt plea to 1 count of skimming.
Permalink Reply by cecilie malene on I have not been kind to my teeth in the start of this lifestyle and I know it very might well be why I have those cavaties. But They seem to get worse and I do not want to loose them, therefore my concern is whether or not I should just get fillings to stop the cavaties I have.
I cannot stop eating dates or oranges atm since I only have dates, oranges, bananas here in DK.
Permalink Reply by Jared Six on Please don't eat any more oranges if you know (or suspect) that they aren't really ripe. I would stick mostly with ripe bananas and greens for now if I were in your situation until I could move some place else.
I had over 10 fillings and 1 root canal back in the early 2000's (way before my raw vegan days) and the dentist also tried to get me to let him remove all of my wisdom teeth and do all kinds of other unnecessary stuff that I didn't need so I would encourage you to get a check-up and let us know what they say and recommend before agreeing to anything major because the odds are that someone here will have experience to share with you that could help you out a lot. (I really don't want to you to end up getting ripped off.)
Hopefully it's not as bad as you are worried that it is. I remember you seeming really nervous about getting a blood test recently because you thought that you would have deficiencies and then saying that the results ended up being good.
Like I said my teeth where all messed up back in the day and haven't bothered me since getting some fillings put in several years ago. Over 3 years now on 80/10/10 and so far I haven't noticed any negative changes in my teeth. I wish you luck Cecilie.
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