Last few days I've been experiencing major fatigue, like ready to fall asleep tired, after eating mono meals of bananas. They are super ripe, so that's not it. I drink plenty of water so my urine is clear... I'm underslept yeah, but it's just with bananas, or grapes actually.
Mono meal of either of those fruits and I have a major crash.
Blueberries or cherries, recent large mono meals, no issues.
Any ideas?
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Permalink Reply by Nate on August 19, 2012 at 9:30am Are the bananas over ripe and starting to turn alcoholic? Bananas have a large amount of tryptophan.
Permalink Reply by DURIANRIDER on August 19, 2012 at 11:22am Not enough sleep.
Not enough water.
Happens to me too when not getting enough early nights/water.
Another possibility is you are waiting too long in the morning to eat breakfast. If I spent a day with you I could pin point it exactly.
Permalink Reply by CherryBom on August 19, 2012 at 1:37pm yes, not enough sleep is definitely a factor
i know i need to go to bed earlier, and not just because i'm interested in this lifestyle as a longterm lifestyle. last night i got to bed at 9 which felt early and i had difficulty falling asleep. i was up at 1145 and then 530am nursing and up for the day by 630 ---
i thought it strange that it was only certain fruits...notably bananas and grapes
to answer the other possibility, overripe bananas, they tasted fine, which is how i manage to eat 8 in a row no trouble :)
um, unrelated question. i just ate close to 1 cup of 'raw' cashews after my huge salad which didn't fill me up, and i know i didn't have enough fruit during the day...
how long to wait before it'll be ok to put fruit in? i know the fats can remain a really long time, and i seem to have slower than average digestion, even fruit takes a long time to move through.
i'll drink as much water as i can before bed and upon waking to help.
i'm finding raw vegan a breeze, but LOW FAT i can't seem to keep on that every single day, after a few days i seem to have a raw fat binge, namely nuts...
thanks for the input! appreciate getting feedback while i stumble around trying to make some big changes
Permalink Reply by Freshtival on August 19, 2012 at 5:38pm
Quote : " um, unrelated question. how long to wait before it'll be ok to put fruit in? "
This isn't scientific but its what I do. I wait for an early, weak hunger signal from my body before I eat fruit after eating non-fruit items. I figure my body is ready, willing, and able to digest again if it sends me a slightly hungry signal. Any opinions out there if this is OK or not ?
ps, I do the same thing for any food combining I'm not sure about.
imo you sound like you are undereating calories by a lot. like you, i have trouble sleeping and crave junk food when i dont eat enough.
you should keep track of how many calories you're eating each day on paper! that helped me a lot. at least until you get the hang of eating enough.
you might be having a sugar crash from the bananas if you eat a lot of nuts.
Permalink Reply by CherryBom on August 20, 2012 at 1:19am some days i could be undereating calories but i generally a significant amount of medjool date calories daily - i've been hitting a minimum of 2400 calories a day -
any and all fats i will eat, nuts or otherwise, are only in the evenings with my big meal of salads-lettuce-tomatoes etc.. i'm really good about that, no fats til after all the fruits eaten in the day
could a heavy load of fat in the evening still be present by 11am the following morning, after exercise, when i'm eating this banana meal??
Permalink Reply by Galadriel Veganist on August 19, 2012 at 6:55pm How many bananas do you eat at a time? I've noticed that if I eat more than 10 to 12 bananas at a time I get a little fatigued, but then the feeling subsides after about 30 to 45 minutes. You definitely need more sleep though. Cats are considered some of the most athletic of all animals. They rest and sleep 18 plus hours per day. Many of the world's top athletes are known to rest and sleep 12 plus hours per day. I don't have as much energy if I get less than 8 hours of sleep each night.
Permalink Reply by CherryBom on August 20, 2012 at 1:17am i can eat 8 medium sized bananas in a row no problem, so i'd say 8-10 bananas in a meal. the fatigue i'm getting comes on within minutes and i'd say it takes a good hour to pass.
yes, agreed on the sleep. i know i do better the more sleep i get. i'm working on that.
Permalink Reply by Nova on August 19, 2012 at 8:02pm Do you get any pain or discomfort in your kidney/adrenal area? As you may be aware your kidneys filter out excess potassium and this is mainly controlled by a hormone called aldosterone produced by the adrenal glands. This hormone is your sodium/potassium regulator. If you are suffering from adrenal insufficiency in any way or your kidneys have been damaged or have deteriorated from previous lifestyle choices such as a stress, high protein diet, to much coke, etc your fatigue could be associated to temporarily high level of potassium in you blood. I am having a few issues with my kidneys/adrenals and at the moment and I am not able to eat high potassium fruit such as bananas.This is hopefully not your problem, however I mention it just in case.
Permalink Reply by Lori Bananas on August 20, 2012 at 12:39am
Permalink Reply by CherryBom on August 20, 2012 at 1:15am kidney area is like lower back on either side, is that correct? if so, then yes. a dull deep soreness there.
i would be surprised if i DIDN'T have some pretty advanced adrenal issues because of my history of stress (chronic, elevated, longterm) and recent events in my life.
if this were an issue, what do you do other than avoiding high potassium fruit? rest, reduce stress....
Permalink Reply by Nova on August 20, 2012 at 8:42am Hi Lori, as you know the adreanals sit on top of the kidneys and they work somewhat in unison together, if one is running low the other will be effected. UTIs are a common and well known symptom of kidney insufficiency. Our kidneys play a large part in filtering out acids from our blood and predominantly our lymphatic system. This is one line of reasoning for UTIs - our kidneys are no longer able , due to damage, to keep up with the acid load, hence the burning.
Hi ya Cherry Bom - The kidney/adrenals are are just at the base of the lowest ribs on your back, hopefully on both sides :) . Although when these organs are stressed they can tighten up a persons back muscles causing low back pain and even pain in the hips.
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What to do? Adrenals-rest and reduce stress, early nights, depends on the condition off and how severe the deterioration of the glands, bringing the body back into a state of cellular alkalinity (this can take some time), etc. In regards to the kidneys, well im still trying to figure this out myself. However I do know to dont do what the Doc's recommend and that is to drop potassium high foods (fruit) and eat protein. the main cause of kidney deterioration is an overly acidic diet and body for years on end, so reverse this and make the body alkaline. U may want to try an avoid high potassium fruits for a while as you re-alkalize and heal your kidneys/adrenals. Lemon water Is a very powerful alkalizer, has low potassium and is loaded with vitamins and minerals.
You could help confirm its potassium issue by eating a few food items that are high in potassium (k) and see how you feel. This would be dates, potatoes and tomatoes. Cronometer will tell you how much potassium per 100g or whatever weight for all food types. If tomatoes give you pain in you kidney area you will at least know its not mainly/only a sugar/adrenal issue.
By the way, I dont believe you have full blown hyperkalemia( high blood potassium levels), however you may want to look at a few of the symptoms associated with this condition. Feeling really tired, lethargy,heart and tried/sore muscles are a few of the main ones.
I am by no-means an expert on this and im only writing down what I have learnt/found out, so I would be very keen to hear what you think, any ideas you may have and anything else you find out about this subject? Here's a little bit of info if your interested.Cheers guys.
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