So I recently bought a water distiller and started experimenting on different waters I had around the home.
a) soft city tap water
b) hard city tap water
c) store bought distilled that went through our water stand (those stands get dirty if they don't have regular maintenance)
d) the crystal clear tasty finished product!
I'm so glad I bought this. No more shelling out $5 a jug to the store for something that should be free. Plus those jugs are made with the BPA type of plastic just so you know. Ridiculous that they still use that.
Anyway, I'm sure a lot of you are already drinking clean water, but for those like me who thought they were doing the right thing and weren't - just a heads-up!
Not sure if you can really see the difference between "c" and "d" in the pic. "C" is cloudier and has little bits of sediment floating in it. The difference is much more apparent in real life. I'll have trouble drinking out of those coolers now I'm sure!
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on You assume that water is like fruit and vegetables in that they are living and contain a quality of life-giving which is destroyed when heat is applied. You ask how can this not be?
Easy: Because unlike food, water (H2O) is an inert substance and you cannot ascribe to it any quality of life (other than that the body requires it to function, but it is H2O and H2O only, with no other parameters, for instance, a rotting orange has had its nutrients consumed by bacteria but "rotting water" is still water once nature removes the water from the contamination via evaporation.). Heating it does not chemically change it. It becomes gaseous and then condenses back into a liquid. If you fry a banana there are observable chemical changes, that correspond with the natural hygiene idea of food being able to give life. If you boil water there is no observable chemical change, it is still H20. It can become more acidic or alkaline with the addition or subtraction of hydroxide or hydronium ions but that is a separate matter. So whether you observe it simply or via chemistry, there is no change; no destruction of life-giving quality. If you dehydrate a banana and collect the water, it is pure H20 and has not been changed. The water in the banana is the water outside of the banana. It is better to get the water from the banana, of course, but it is helpful to view water as a constituent substance. So the pure water has not changed even though you heated it and removed it from the fruit. It is more healthy in the fruit, but only because the fruit is healthy; the water is still the same old water.
You are comparing apples to oranges. Rather, you are comparing oranges to water. Or, you are comparing a basket to a reed.
"Filtering" it through many layers of earth and clay simply adds inorganic minerals. There is nothing in pure water (H2O) that needs to be filtered out as it contains nothing except H2O. Nature has a great mechanism for purifying water, and you may have learned about it at a young age - the water cycle. Water evaporates into the upper parts of our atmosphere where it condenses into clouds, which are beautiful to gaze upon, then it falls onto the earth where it is as pure as can be. So if we want to drink water, that is the best water for us. The water in the many layers of earth and clay was once pure, when it fell from the heavens, but it now contains inorganic minerals which are for the plants, not for you. The plants will deliver them to you in a much more suitable form.
Cue big cloud of smog, and now "pure" rainwater is no longer the best water for us.
Permalink Reply by Paxkey * on i'm an only advocating for natural spring water, not rainwater.
so you are saying then that natural spring water contains nothing more than 2 molecules of hydrogen and one molecule of oxygen. nothing more?
imagine our human ancestors growing thirsty. ocean water would be too salty, lake water and river water would be teeming with life and also be probably close to unsafe or at least less then ideal as fish feces does not add a pleasant taste.
shallow streams perhaps, and definitely springs would be the choice for a thirsty human. This water would have quite a bit more in it then simple H2O.
boil this water and everything in it dies. hence my use of the term 'dead water'.
one more interesting article.http://chetday.com/distilledwater.htm
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on Here is a much better link that the one you gave me:
http://www.rawfoodexplained.com/perfect-health-part-i/pure-water.html
Natural spring water would most likely also contain inorganic minerals, which are harmful to the body. It could also contain many bacteria. Some of the bacteria could be harmful, if there is an overgrowth due to disruption of local bacterial flora. So you are incorrect, it would not just contain 3 types of molecule.
What exactly is "in" your precious spring water... You say it would have "quite a bit more in it" than simple H2O. And all this stuff would "die" if you boiled it. This is a fallacy perpetuated by the mineral water companies. And now it's floating across the internet. Why are you being so vague, is it that you don't really know what's in it but you want to ascribe qualities of life to it?
What could be in it? Tell me please.
-Bacteria
-Nutrients
You don't need to consume bacteria to sustain life or gain any advantage. Bacteria is already everywhere. You do not need to drink it, it is in your tongue and in your water and on your skin and everywhere, whether the water was distilled or not. The second it goes below boiling temperature the bacteria come back. Same with rain. Soon as it condenses or falls you can bet the bacteria will come back.
The only minerals it would contain are inorganic minerals, which are not conducive to sustaining human life. We need minerals in their organic form from fruits and vegetables.
The article you linked to is ridiculous. I'm surprised they didn't say anything about "living" or "dead" water. I'm glad they didn't becuase water is oh yeah an inert substance and cannot be living or dead. there is nothing living in water that the body benefits from. the body benefits from pure h20, or the water naturally occuring in juicy fruits which is part of the fruit. The focus of the article was on the softness of distilled water which pulls minerals. Distilled water can only pull inorganic minerals! Basic chemistry and scientific literacy is all I'm asking for here. Do you really think Doug Graham completely ignored these concerns when making his recommendation for distilled water? No, he did his research, and realized that most of these claims are complete nonsense.
"Water filtered through a solid charcoal filter is slightly alkaline."
Charcoal filters are standard issue on countertop distillers.
By your logic, rainwater is "dead water" and we should wait for it to "filter through" (get contaminated by) inorganic minerals and come out of a natural spring before we drink it. I still don't understand how you can "kill" it by boiling it though. It's not alive in the first place, and it doesn't provide significant nutrition. This sounds like "spiritual wu-wu bull excrement" to me. I'd rather drink pure water as nature intended, rather than letting it get all dirtied up so it ossifies my brain.
Permalink Reply by Paxkey * on 'Humans are not naturally water-drinking creatures, for they have absolutely no equipment for it as have natural water-drinking animals. Therefore, the proper diet for humans is necessarily water sufficient. A correct diet must contain the pure water that we require.'
this quote comes directly from the article you sent. i fail to see any 'science' as you keep demanding present in this quote.
what i do know is that the only current source of water on earth that requires no alteration to make it safe comes in the form of clean sourced spring water. unfortunately safe sources of spring water are rare and fast depleting and we must drink safe water.
you argue that distilled water is best because it is pure. yes it certainly is closest to pure h2o as one can get. but making a chemical compound pure does not necessarily make it best from a wholistic viewpoint. i certainly do not want to breath in pure oxygen for as you know that would be deadly, i just want the freshest air and the freshest water possible.
clearly arguing semantics and throwing up endless internet links will not settle our differences so i wish you luck in your endeavours. your opinions and theories and the science used to back up your opinions and theories have been duly noted and i thank you for your efforts.
peace be with you.
Permalink Reply by PJ on Now I read you. And I had tried rubbing stones together all day just to figure out how much osmosis it would take to fix LA. Sadly, all I got was accepting that 1) pipes are there and in Haiti they are not and 2) the question of immunity / disease / pathogens in reference to a city without water doesn't lie in the hands of authority, it has to do with the people pissing in the water.
As far as all the drilling all over everywhere, it also makes me sad to think that we are in some serious s***. I'm now wondering how much a Berkey can filter as it seems the next logical step to the spring.
Sorry if I was blunt before.
Permalink Reply by Lauren Anderson on Wow.. I'm just greatful I have nice clean well water from right under my house.
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on You sure it's clean?
Are there any farms near you; do they fertilize or spray? Do your neighbors have septic systems, and do they use non-biodegradable chemicals and take pharmaceuticals? Are there any natural gas fracking operations in your county or state?
Not to mention inorganic minerals.
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on Scrape up $700 for a full-spectrum chemical analyses, you'd be surprised at all the prozac that's in there.
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