Hey I was watching it and wondered what everyone thought about it? No one on this show is as strict as 30badders but it seems they are judged and everyone friends and family are forcing them to eat pizza and telling them to stop obsessing. Most people in my life tend to eat healthier when they're around me or we both eat our own way. If I go to the restaurant I'll eat before or after, or even bring my food to the restaurant. I've taken in a whole cantaloupe to Mexican Restaurants and asked the server for a plate and knife w/o any problems half the table ended up eating cantaloupe with me in addition to their mexican food because it was so good. I've eaten an entire papaya in rafferty's and the server himself had me pop a bite in his mouth between tables ;)
Don't get me wrong sometimes it's a hassle to eat this way and I have days I get frustrated as well, but it seems the people MTV is following don't have nearly as strict of a diet but bigger issues with it...
What does everyone think? Orthorexia? MTV's True life etc thoughts...
Permalink Reply by Iron Clad Ben on I have a similar problem. That being said, TV is a major buzzkill to me, this place is uplifting to the spirt.
Permalink Reply by Francesca on I have no TV, but use Internet a lot because it's almost constantly available at work. But I find the two to be very differnet. Here, we are connecting with others. We are engaging. We are thinking more, using more creativity when reading and making responses, discussing, debating, etc. Watching TV requires a lot less effort--just sitting there and doing virtually nothing. We aren't engaging with anything, nor connecting with others. It is isolating.
I choose Internet over TV any day. I've made many friends through Internet, who are now friends in person. TV can't make that happen.
Me too. Sitting at a couch staring just doesn't cut it for me. But yes I can sit in a chair for 20 minutes and listen to the folks here!
Permalink Reply by Emmie on I agree 100% with you !!!
and the obsession of purity, like
I prefer to die then to eat anything that's not organic, etc etc
Permalink Reply by Macuilxochitl on To be fair, HCRV is really simple. I can understand how somebody may be freaking out trying to eat healthy any other way than this one.
I think orthorexia is a term normies use to categorize anyone who eats healthier than they do! It's a class they put "others" in to show that the are "different". Being "normal" is good. Being "different" is bad.
Normal people suffer and die from obesity-related, chronic, degenerative diseases--and that's good. "Different" people don't have heart disease--and that's bad--from the perspective of the normies. It's a form of insanity, I believe. By that reasoning President Clinton is orthorexic. It's ridiculous, in my opinion.
I wish I could get orthorexic and stay that way! I keep slipping up and reverting back to being a normie--and that's bad! See the contradiction here?
Lee Mack
Permalink Reply by Macuilxochitl on Prob with orthorexia is that it's not eating healthy itself; it's being stressed out about eating healthy. And seriously, until you stumble upon HCRV, there's prolly loads of stress going to be involved in trying to create a healthy diet.
Permalink Reply by Danielle on Yes. I related to this diagnosis several years back in a big way.
To the comment, "if you are obsessed with food to the point of starvation, there is a name for that already... it's called ANOREXIA" -- in my case i felt an important distinction from anorexia that doctors and friends and passerby strangers would not know and just lump me in with anorexics. I was not obsessed with being thin; i was obsessed with being healthy. So many emotional problems and psychosomatic tensions, and my digestion was so weak, and I felt such major panic and guilt and shame from the tiniest morsel of salt or something, that my body reacted so majorly to any tiny tiny tiny deviation from a perfect pure raw diet. But people saw how thin I was and assumed I was anorexic.
Anorexia and orthorexia have in common the control and obsession about food but different motives. Fear of fat vs. fear of illness. When i was super thin i wasn't looking in the mirror seeing a fat person. The psychology is just different. When someone is putting 99.999999% of their focus on food to solve their health and life problems to the avoidance of emotional issues for example, for me the term 'orthorexia' is perfect.
Well, maybe I'm orthorexic then. I'm 69 y/o and very concerned about obesity-related, chronic, degenerative diseases. I have a few and I don't want to wind up in a nursing home. I'd rather take the "death with dignity" route. So I'm putting lots of focus on my health and my diet--with good reason, I believe. My therapist thinks I should forget it and be happy eating pizza with the normies.
I think she's crazy, and I told her I don't want to talk with her about food any more. You sound healthy now. It's a long struggle, isn't it? It's like slavery. I'm striving for "liberation."
Lee
Yes, I agree that it's a mental issue. For example, ever try talking with a smoker about the dangers of smoking? They are irrational!! They are in denial!! Their whole mental process seems to be designed to defend and protect their smoking addiction. They cannot, and will not, give up smoking--no matter what the consequences--so that means they have to find a way to discredit all contrary arguments.
And comfort food is a more subtle multiple addiction than cigarettes, so the mentall illness with food is much more subtle and difficult to see.
I think SAD eaters (including myself) are crazy! There must be a reason I can't seem to stay away from pizza! Today is Day One--again! You sound like you are very concerned about what other people think. I know I am.
Lee
Gianni replied to Kelly Kurcina's discussion If still struggling with salt, lower calories for now?? in the group High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions
Kelly Kurcina replied to Kelly Kurcina's discussion If still struggling with salt, lower calories for now?? in the group High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions
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