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Permalink Reply by Greenmama on You're off to a good start, but 700 calories is significant under-eating, explaining diving into cooked food later in the day.
Explain what you mean by, "I felt like I was going to jump out of my skin." Lots of energy? Skin was itchy? Stomach hurt? I'm scared to eat that much?
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Permalink Reply by Iron Clad Ben on Most people can't do an overnight transition, mainly because they need time to build the stomach capacity to get in enough calories by dinner time. Take your time. Eat raw for dinner when you can, and the rest of the time do your best to keep your cooked food low fat with things like potatoes and rice, keep it oil/salt-free and don't stress over it! The changes will come if you keep putting in the work. Took me about a year to do 100% raw comfortably. Some people take longer, others take shorter. Enjoy the process.
Permalink Reply by magicreative on Despite the fact that almost all of the publicity you hear about this diet seems to be of the "100% raw ! or bust" variety, there actually is a lot of evidence out there that people can make fantastic improvements in their health by even going "50% +", and by making sure the other 50% that is cooked vegan is as healthy and balancing as possible.
I would refer you to Hallelujah Acres, the International Biogenic Society, and the reviews of a very popular book from the '80's called "Fit for Life", for examples of just how beneficial this dietary regime is for a lot of folks - even if not followed "100%".
THAT SAID - I know from personal experience that by striving for 100% ( and then sometimes falling a little short of "perfection" ) that I am better off overall, health wise, than when I take things a little too easy, and am not "serious" enough. There is an incredible "slippery slope" on this diet, whereby, if you are not focused on getting in enough ripe fruit, and being always prepared to have raw vegan food available to use as a calorie source, you can very easily backslide to a grain and beans based vegan diet that has very little raw and vibrant food in it.
One thing I notice really really helps is to make a raw vegan date-o-rade smoothie early in the day. You put soaked raw dates in a blender, maybe with some fresh squeezed orange juice, and some ice if it is hot out, and blend into a nice drink. The great thing about this is that a large sized medjool date has about 50 nutrition- packed calories in it. So a date-o-rade with say 12 pitted dates in it, maybe with another 200 cals of orange juice in it too, has 800 raw calories in it ! I notice that when I drink one of those puppies - wow ! - I have an incredible amount of "raw" energy that lasts a good long time, lots of stamina, and no need or cravings at all for cooked vegan foods later.
Good luck ! Sounds like you are doing great ! Congratulations on all the wonderful changes you are making !
Permalink Reply by Macuilxochitl on Good post. I'd like to add, though, that not all fruit agrees on sharing the body with cooked. Bananas seem to be cool with this, but papayas, for instance, don't like to compromise at all, and their vengeance is excruciating.
Permalink Reply by magicreative on Ya man - this is an issue - you're right - basically - cooked vegan foods and raw vegan foods do NOT sit in the gut together well ( except for raw salads - they seem to go fairly well with cooked food ). So what one needs to do if they are not 100% raw is be aware of what's being processed in the digestive system at any given time.
Raw foods generally digest pretty fast and one could conceivably then eat say some cooked brown rice say 1/2 to 1 hour afterward. If you stuff yourself with papaya however, let's say, then you need to "feel" when the papaya has digested before eating the cooked food.
Conversely, if one eats some cooked brown rice, that'll take longer - like about a good 3 hours to digest, and so, one would have to wait that long before eating raw fruits again.
Permalink Reply by SeeJaneEat on I've been scared to make a date-o-rade because it seems like SO MUCH sugar. I get the feeling it will go straight to my head and give me a whopping headache. Just eating 3 dates makes me feel what seems like over-sugared. Not sure if this is just mental conditioning because I have been afraid of sugar for so long or what.
Maybe I will make one now and do an experiment.
Permalink Reply by magicreative on Interestingly - I have the same issue. Just raw dates eaten plain seem like a very sweet candy to me and I can only "stomach" a few of them at a time.
Blended into date-o-rade however, with the water, it comes out kind of like a less sweet drink - kind of like a chai - if you know chai.
I swear to God - that I think that half of the chronic fatigue syndrome cases in the world could be "cured" in just a few days - if peeps knew about date-o-rade.
Permalink Reply by SeeJaneEat on I'm with ya.
Permalink Reply by Kimberry on Eat more! :)
Aim for around 2500 calories each day. Bananas are a good staple, especially if you're short on money, but remember the other fruits too. I get in tons of calories by juicing oranges/grapefruit in the morning (leaving the pulp in!)
Try 10-15 oranges in the morning, 10 bananas for lunch (smoothie if you'd like, or mixed with another fruit), 10 of another fruit for dinner (peaches/mango/etc. more or less depending on size), and a big salad at night. Increase the numbers gradually each day, or eat more often if you don't mind doing that, until you get the calories you need. If you're having trouble eating ten bananas at once, have two meals of five each, etc. Add one more to your meal each day. Also, dates are an excellent calorie source since they're so small. :)
If you find yourself craving savory for dinner, even after you've eaten enough, the salad will often do it! :)
I have only craved cooked when eating this way if I haven't eaten enough.
It is a piece of fruit! You can do it. :)
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