LFRV who still have weight to lose after a year or even two.

I am wondering if there are many out there who have been at this for a while and are not seeing results. Is it possible to eat two much fat or not drink enough water or not sleep enough to hold on to pounds of body fat. These small factors in a logical mind could not possibly cause someone to hold on to ten plus pounds of unwanted fat. I know it feels great, but continuing to gain weight, adding cellulite and not being able to shake it seems to be the trend for many women and some men. Can longterm ers please comment on what point in time if ever did they start to lose and become as thin as the poster children of this diet. I am not trying to stir anything up, would really appreciate some truth, as I see many struggling.

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Permalink Reply by Greenmama on April 13, 2012 at 3:39pm

Thanks, Jon. *blush* I'm lucky to have all of you! Truly! (Including you, Allison! Thank you!)

Permalink Reply by Allison on April 14, 2012 at 4:42am

I have never called myself ugly or sloppy. That is odd how you come up with these things. I am not afraid to do it. I did it. Have done, past tense. I am not afraid and using previous posts to define this one as the same obsession is not accurate and is an attack. Please stay on point. This post and tarrah's have gotten a lot of people to come out of the closet about not being as successful as everyone would like after a year or two. IT HAPPENS, IT IS HAPPENING. And I, a person of this community would like to undersstand it better. Stop your obsession about eating disorders. I am over twenty pounds heavier than when I started, drop the eating disorder from your perception of me. Please be as gentle with others as you preach and walk your talk.

Permalink Reply by Sideah Shannon on April 14, 2012 at 6:13am

Allison please remember you have not been 811 long term.

Permalink Reply by Greenmama on April 14, 2012 at 6:15am

Well, I must admit I am going off my memory, because your post that I am referring to has now disappeared. I remember it well, because I remember feeling shocked and disturbed and sad to hear someone denigrating their body in that way. But I confess that I do not remember the precise wording and I apologize if I got it wrong. I do not want to misrepresent you.

That was also the post I was referring to where you said you were going back to calorie restricting and caffeine because you couldn't take the weight gain. You mentioned in that post, as well as the other current post, "I've gained 20 pounds," that you got into this to look like Freelee and it's ridiculous to think a woman shouldn't be obsessed with looking young and thin. You said you now feel like you have to cover up your body to hide it. (Implying you are ashamed and don't like the way your body looks and are afraid others will judge it?) And you keep implying that every woman is lying if we say we don't care about being thin. That we all came here because we saw videos of Freelee and want to look like her.

So, if I seem "obsessed" its because you still haven't questioned the underlying beliefs that you have about the looks of your body being more important than anything else. You argue that it's better to do something really destructive to your body, than it is to choose healthy habits and gain some weight temporarily. If I seem obsessed, it's because I know all too well the pain and suffering this mindset causes. You are not alone, you know. Many people feel the way you do. Some of us felt that way and got over it, and we'd love you to experience the sweet relief, too.

Permalink Reply by Sideah Shannon on April 14, 2012 at 6:23am

Greenmama you make so many good points :)

Also being super thin is becoming more of a dying fad.

Look at Rihanna -- 5'8 -- 137 pounds
Katy Perry 5'7 -- 130 pounds

Jennifer Lawrence has an amazing healthy body.

It is not about being stick thin.

Permalink Reply by Greenmama on April 14, 2012 at 6:39am

Thank you! I am just so excited that I can feel good enough to dance and garden and play with my kids. And also that I have so much time and energy in my day to do so many things because I'm not exhausted and overwhelmed. I am so grateful for having found this way of life. I am stronger, fitter, and happier than I was when I was 15 years younger. And it's gonna keep getting better.

Permalink Reply by Mary TG on April 15, 2012 at 12:24am

Greenmama, your words are true exactly for me, too. I keep feeling 'underwhelmed', a new word that applies to busy hcrv folk.

And it would be nice for us all to start substituting the word 'thin' with 'FIT'. @#$% thin, get fit.

Permalink Reply by Amelia on April 14, 2012 at 11:00am

Oh boy -- are you kidding? These women are still thin, even if not "super thin." Jennifer Lawrence is estimated to be 5'7" and 125 pounds.

Height	Small Frame	Medium Frame	Large Frame

5'7"	123-136	133-147	143-163
5'8"	126-139	136-150	146-167

Permalink Reply by Allison on April 15, 2012 at 1:10am

Thank you for your concern. But please don't put your opinion about my eating on the loud speaker every time I have a comment. It seems to degrade me and my thirst for knowledge and I am still here. I want this. I do have areas to work on, and would love to not care about how I look. Would love to have so much confidence in my personality that being 40 pounds over weight, after already looking as fit as Freelee, wouldn't phase me. But if Freelee put that on it would affect her. So we as a community need to take a look around at the people who are currently raising their hands to announce that in the category of weight they havent been successful after a year or two. This is part of health, physical health not just mental and lets feel free to talk openly about it not shun those who are currently working on moving past thoughts that got most of the other women in our community here. Comm unity. Together.

Permalink Reply by Dr Gosia O'Reilly on April 12, 2012 at 8:51pm

"Can longterm ers please comment on what point in time if ever did they start to lose and become as thin as the poster children of this diet."

Perhaps instead of theoretical discussions, some of those who applied the recommendations by Harley and Freelee and observed results long term could chime in? Pictures speak stronger than words. Anyone who got fatter initially and slim in the end? Please share your empirical data.

Permalink Reply by Mary TG on April 12, 2012 at 11:10pm

It's over 2 years for me and I still have about 30 pounds to lose. BUT initially I lost a lot, much of which was water weight. Once I figured out how much cals I needed I started out gaining some back. After about 42 years of feeding my body wrongly it has taken a while for my body to adjust. I am losing about a pound a month right now and feel like that is just what I should be doing. There's a much stronger feeling that I am gaining much more than I am 'losing'. I am gaining happiness, more freedom of movement, more clarity, creativity etc etc. So much better to look at what you are gaining than to be thinking of fat loss. Much more fun and beneficial. I'm not looking for thin. I'm striving toward optimal health, and the ability to play like a child.

Permalink Reply by AJ on April 13, 2012 at 9:13am