Out of all my reading here i still do not know what to do about juices. I must have missed the juice debate?
Can somebody please give me the answer to whether or not juicing is recommended?
Please address the against arguments:
1. no fiber>>>floods the blood with sugar to fast
2. (not so important because i can brush but..)damaging to teeth because most fruits brush your teeth while eating them
I always admired Jack LaLanne and Jay Kordich.
Why attempt to manipulate people by equating raw green juice to coffee, alcohol and cocaine use? That giant jump from trying to be very healthy (right or wrong) to coke head is so far off base.
I try to be real but I but don't use narcissistic intimidation to sway others into my beliefs.
I agree that trying things for ourselves is the best way to find out (I hold my own personal experience above all in everything I do). Some people love it, some people hate it and some people like to do it just on occasions. I think Jay Kordich is doing just fine with long term juicing. And Doug Graham is doing just fine long term without too.
i'm sorry if this is a bit off-topic, but i like to use a juicer to split the juice from the fibers. then i mix (blend) the fibers with a bit of the juice to make a soup / sauce / salad dressing and drink the rest. not as ideal as eating everything whole, but at least this way you're getting all the fibers. don't think i'd live on juices though...
i don't remember ever having problems with juices though, but then i never juiced much anyway...
i think you would better listen to people like PK and end-shell who are wise and experienced.
you may like to hear cait's opinions about this though... but beware: i don't write them down!
I second PK's words:
Without this fiber, nutrients, calories, and carbohydrates can pass right through the system without being digested and assimilated and possibly lead to unwanted weight loss and or malnutrition.
and everything else he said.
there's been a discussion here elsewhere in which it says juicing can kill you, i think it's that... maybe it's just metaphoric... well, anyway, will try to locate it...
i would like to add that once i juiced some tomatoes to make a sauce and ended up having to throw away the liquid part...
I definitely agree that juicing fruit raises the glycemic index. That's a good reason to avoid juicing fruit if you can. Dark green vegetables are so low on the glycemic index and healthy that juicing them is probably healthier then completely avoiding them. If your teeth are weak or gone, your digestive system can't handle the fiber or you gas and bloat. Then you need to do what you feel is the healthiest in a non ideal situation. I would rather see people consume greens (even if that means juicing some of them) over avoiding them completely as dark greens really balance our needed vitamins, minerals and protein.
There's a difference between trying to juice your way to health and simply having some juice now and then. The latter never harmed anyone, to my knowledge. Even Durianrider says a bit of cooked juice to keep you going in sport isn't bad. And obviously it isn't since every athlete I've ever known does it. And that's cooked juice! We're talking about fresh, raw juice!
People, don't make too big a deal of this.
RB you make good points, I just want to clarify for any newbies, it's not that DR says cooked juices etc. aren't bad, he says consuming them is better than being under carbed. Neither cooked nor juiced (without the fiber) are optimal, so for those with life threatening illness', they may want to go for only the best conditions for healing.
sounds good ed, although DR also sometimes mentions gerson therapy, which is a high-carb juice diet, as healing people with illnesses, ... so although we all can agree on "not optimal," I do think DR would agree on "not bad," or at the very least, as you said, "better than being undercarbed." So basically I agree with you 96.748 percent.
I like juicing on occasion, for variety, or texture, or taste. But there's a difference between juicing for XYZ on occasion, and making fiberless juice a diet staple. Do it on occasion if you like it, don't rely on it to get your energy and feel your healthiest.
Also, I LOVE juicing green sour apples, and then adding some lemon juice squirt to it. This gives me 80-10-10 friendly vinegar dressing for salads :)
interesting... just that as the dressing or are you using it as a base for more ingredients?