What do ye think of this article? He argues that low-water fruits such as dates and bananas should not be included in a diet for long-term optimal health, though they can be eaten in the transitioning period. Personally I avoid dates as I find them stodgy and dehydrating, and I also eat bananas sparingly. I'd especially like to hear Freelee and Durianrider's thoughts.
So true!! I would choose Mangoes over Banana/Date all the time.
If I had the choice I would live on Mangoes for the rest of my life. They are an instant happy-maker. It's ridiculous how my mind changes when I eat Mangoes. BUT how to get my hands on Mangoes in Italy/Germany without having to spend my whole wage on them? This could easily happen if you plan to eat large Mango-Mono-meals when 1 kg is 9 €. 3 Kilos per meal is nothing when considering the heavy stones inside. So 9 kg per day would be around 80 €. Hahaha....not much left to live on from our hunger-wages here. When starting this lifestyle I could not understand how money or availability could be a problem. But then - as I ditched eating salads - and concentrated on the fruit I found out that there is no good fruit available (organic is sooo rare - only Bananas are always availabe). And Bananas are my least favourite fruit on this planet. Argh!! At the end you end up eating the same fruit for months (oranges and apples in the winter......that was hard!!). Papaya and Mango are a treat once in a while. In the summer we have great melons and watermelons, also grapes and peaches but everything is heavily sprayed. Time to move to the tropics - that's the only solution - unfortunately not viable for me.
Add them to smoothies with water.
You get a ton more calories so you can easily fulfill your energy requirements.
That's a good thing.
If it were not for dates and bananas I would be smashing down the rice and pasta with in a week lol!
I don't have self discipline. I need cals. Bananas and dates are my 'rice and pasta' that let me live the lifestyle I need to live. I could live on mangoes but even in Thailand quality is hard to get daily and ripe each meal.
Mike says he regularly under sleeps, so this is a factor for him. Easier to digest foods might just fit his lifestyle better. Dense, high cal banana and dates take more digestive fire.
It takes about 3 weeks for your body to adjust to lower sodium intake and 4-41 days to adjust to lower protein intake and of course there are tons of others things that take time to adjust to as well. So how your body responds to particular foods may just be what one gets used to eating for which the body has made adjustments. I don't think there are any problems with dates long term, nor bananas. They are raw and full of nutrition and have the good kinds of fiber. DR does a blood sugar test after consuming bananas here, so no blood sugar problems either: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSJ_rhJuxYE
As for feeling dehydrated when eating dates or bananas, you may just need to drink water with them or before eating them or in general. As long as you are peeing with vigor 8-15 times daily, you know you are well hydrated.
I am a terrible couch-potato and am working on this so I really should not open my mouth on this topic, BUT regular under-sleeping plus extreme endurance running......does not sound too good to me either.
id struggle on this lifestyle without dates, i think as long as you blend them with plenty of water in the vitamix they are great :)
No. Dates are the bomb. Mike needs to start blending his dates into date-o-rade. Dates, to me, have a kind of tonic, deep-chi producing effect, that water-rich fruits do not seem to have. Sure, I feel great when I eat water rich fruit, and variety is important. However, I count date-o-rade as the single most important KEY to this whole lifestyle.
I think that over half of the chronic fatigue syndrome cases in the world could be "cured" in a week - from just including date-o-rade into the diet alone - and forgetting everything else.
Take a typical vegan / vegetarian. If those peeps were to just have a 750 cal date-o-rade instead of one rice and beans or pasta meal everyday - then I predict that their health would skyrocket. Conversely, if those peeps were to skip a pasta meal in favor of a water-rich fruit meal, that would be great ! too, however, I think that the pure-sweet and tonic quality of dates blended into date-o-rade is just such an easy easy way to carb up and build the blood.
Hi, I agree with Daniel. All fruits have unique benefits just as all one of us will have slightly different needs. I would say dates and bananas are not worse or better than others at all! U might need to drink more water with them, but if u feel like having them, it probably means u need smth from them.
Let me give u an example. When we started this lifestyle with my cousin in the same time, she always ate grapes, that was her... lifesaver, hehe, she liked it a lot, and it kept her staying on it. I was eating lots of bananas, coz thats what I was hungry for. We did the same lifestyle, but she probably needed the nutrients from grapes, and i needed that was in bananas. Simple :)
I say just listen to ur body and eat ANY fresh fruit, dont hold back :)
I'm a newby, and never really ate dates in the past -- once in awhile in a granola or fruitcake or something. It took a few days to get used to them, and I was skeptical at first. But I'm really enjoying them, and they help me boost my calories up to 2500. Otherwise I would struggle. Had my first datorade yesterday -- and afterwards I felt so incredibly CLEAR, focused, calm and centered, and totally energetic. Better and purer than any caffeine fix. So maybe it's an individual thing. Dates scored way high on my Chi -meter.
Perhaps it's the type of dates you're eating? When I travel to Europe, I find some Iranian dates but they are small and quite dry. Here, I get the King Solomon mejdool organic dates and they're big and juicy. I always consume about a liter of water with dozen dates. I too really on weekly 25kg box of bananas and 5kg box of dates. Dates are expensive though, so I don't eat as much as bananas. Increase your water intake as you eat them - I can never eat dates alone without water. Cheers.