IMPORTED PRODUCE - ALL IRRADIATED...

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Permalink Reply by David on November 11, 2011 at 4:38pm

good local produce in la i would imagine

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Permalink Reply by ednshell on November 11, 2011 at 5:21pm

"How could irradiated foods be declared safe and wholesome if animals fed irradiated foods in experiments dating back 50 years have suffered dozens of health problems, including premature death, mutations and other genetic abnormalities,fetal death and other reproductive problems, immune system disorders, fatal internal bleeding, organ damage, tumors, stunted growth and nutritional deficiencies?"

http://www.citizen.org/documents/BadTaste.pdf

 

They say organic cannot legally be irradiated just hot water dipped, I always test my produce to see if it is raw by putting an outside piece in hydrogen peroxide and see if it bubbles, I have not found one yet that does not.

 

My wholesaler says there is no way they actually irradiate the mangos, so I don't know if it's possible they don't actually do it or only sometimes, it would be a great inside story to really find out.

 

Another article: http://www.purefood.org/irrad/status.cfm

 

This issue brings us back to the importance of everyone growing as much food as they possibly can wherever they live.

 

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Permalink Reply by Alena on November 11, 2011 at 5:54pm

ednshell do you know for a fact that the peroxide test is ligid?  no bacteria ever grows on irradiated produce?

i guess if the produce is irradiated upon entry there is no need for labeling it. so thats why i wanna know how prevalent that is.

why is your wholesaller sure about the mangoes.

oh also i heard that the white powder on papayas is pesticides. i thought its a fungicide ...

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Permalink Reply by ednshell on November 12, 2011 at 12:27am

I have only tested the organic hot water treated produce and I take an inside piece near the surface, I wash it first too, so if it was only bacteria there would not be very many bubbles.

 

I would like to know how prevalent it is too, we need to find an insider, someone who works at one of those plants.

 

I don't know why my wholesaler thinks that, but when they talk to their sources, they get a lot of info. about where the crop is coming from, why there are delays and such so it seems he would have heard it mentioned that the crop was coming from the irradiation plant at some point. But maybe they keep it under the radar, I don't know.

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Alena on November 11, 2011 at 6:31pm

ednshell this article is very interesting and informative but its has been last updated in 2001 so i could imagine there is a lot of changes. it said that produce is treated upon entry with a fungicide rather than irradiated but that was 10 years ago. also irradiating facilities in LA, Texas and florida. ugh...

and David there is plenty of local produce but i wouldnt call it good. and that was not the point of the question.

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Permalink Reply by Rock on November 12, 2011 at 1:02am

35 or 40 years ago I read the same thing in the book "Are you radioactive.". I think the author is Linda Clark.

I have heard that all produce is irradiated. But not actually all, because of logistics, just as maybe 1 in a thousand containers at shipping ports actually get "inspected".

Irradiated food. Is not necessarily radioactive, as cooked food is not always hot when you get it out of the fridge. Some forms of radiation have inredibly short half-life.

Also keep in mind that we treat this site as an AMERICAN site, thou founded by Austrailians, and used internationally. The stupidity of irradiating food is an American sickness, Durianrider has posted that his call to customs provided the info that none of their imported food is. Europe is likely not to allow irradiation of any of the fresh produce, though maybe the shrimp dinners and such that are ready to open and eat in "cardboard" containers on the Shelf...

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Permalink Reply by Rock on November 12, 2011 at 7:17am

I "misspoke"--I meant to say all imported into America produce.

I am suspicious that organically grown produce is not pesticide treated along the way to America, just based on greed and the ability to rationalize "Well, it is organically grown still, it'js just not organically shipped..."

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Permalink Reply by Alena on November 12, 2011 at 11:46am

Rock so you mean DR called about american customs? or australian? i am assuming australian cos we know its irradiated here. 

i wish people were not this nonchalant about that.

and yes you are right.  organic unfortunately means nothing to me.

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Permalink Reply by Rock on November 12, 2011 at 12:13pm

Yes, you surmise correctly. DR called the Aussie customs, we know that too much money is made here in the USA for us to not have the practice widespread.

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Permalink Reply by AnarchoFembot on November 12, 2011 at 7:40am

Dont listen to the scare mongering of the pseudo science fans. Irradiated food is safe, so far as science knows. If something were to be discovered to be wrong with it, likely, as long as the food lobbyists didnt win the politico way, it would be taken off the shelves. Food irradiation is a cold process, and actually makes food safer that is being imported by killing microbes and bacteria that can be harmful to people and the environment.

http://www.extension.iastate.edu/foodsafety/irradiation/

 

 

 

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Permalink Reply by Rock on November 12, 2011 at 7:54am

In Linda's book, she was using government conclusions, irradiation ok for the extremely occasional meal but only when not practical otherwise....therefore space travel, and the national fascination with it brought irradiated foods to the supermarket shelves--by popular DEMAND!
Best and only extended use was military front lines--when life expectance was so short that one could not expect to live long enough to suffer from the "deathness" if the dead product. If they did survive the combat, they would be craving the "good, and often live" food.
Now, Irradiating food is BIG money, up front and in shrinkage margins...

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Permalink Reply by AnarchoFembot on November 12, 2011 at 8:20am

as you said before the book was from 30 or 40 years ago. A lot of science has been done since then. I am not interested in what the wing nut crowd thinks about things like food irradiation, or anything else modern science has brought about to make things safer for humans. If you want to convince me that irradiated food is harmful you will need to provide, modern, peer reviewed science journals showing so. thanks

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