My question is if this statement is logically true. I understand that all human beings share many fundamental biological aspects so it seems legitimate to think that if there are cases where a person can recover health or to overcome some symptoms only by doing 100% low fat raw vegan food, then it is demonstrated in certain way than for a human being this kind of food must be good in the long term, and so I would state
that all the reasons why some people fail on doing this diet must be extradietetic (even it would be possible they aren't real humans, maybe they have some physiological adaptations to other food, who knows).
I say this because I know one case, my wife. Since she was a child she has felt an aversion to meat. Even she has always been inclined to a low fat diet. At 15 till 23 she was vegetarian, with some eggs and dairy, but for long periods she ate nothing of that products. At a point she developed an strong intolerance to dairy products (in fact she can die if she doesn't get injected) and by then she became totally vegan, about four o five years ago now.
She had a car accident by that time too, with serious consequences. As a result some parts of her face get paralyzed and during more than 3 years of a very good vegan diet with quite a bit of fruits and greens, cooked and raw, that parts of her face never get totally cured.
Then she discovered raw diets and naturally began to eat a high fruit diet with green smoothies and 100% raw during 2 months, then she noticed that the hard parts of her face became totally normal, they get cured only by eating a 100% raw diet, lfrv one.
I think if 811 could be "deficient" in some aspect in the long term, then it wouldn't exist this cases where someone can get a real cure only by following 100% raw diet, what do you think?
Permalink Reply by dangermouse on I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to say from the way you worded things. LFRV does not cure illness. It is the least taxing, most beneficial way to eat, which allows your body to do its job and fix itself. When there's an illness or a problem, your body can work on that. When there's no illness, your body is free to make itself as healthy as possible. It's not like a drug where you only take it to treat a problem while it exists.
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on I'm struggling a bit with the grammar. But if you are saying that 811 is sweet and awesome and really cool and can provide your body with what it needs to heal itself, much more so than with any other diet, then yes. I agree.
Permalink Reply by sunwukung on well, maybe I can try this, There are some illnesses than the body cannot cure unless one eats an 811 diet (100% raw), I consider this a fact from what I wrote about my wife. then is that fact a "proof" that 811 is optimal and secure on the long term?
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on If it's proof enough for you, yes. 811 doesn't really have a lot of clinical studies and trials and scientific studies backing it up. All we have is personal experience, anecdotal evidence, and the ever-present self-evident wisdom of natural hygiene which encompasses 811 (811 is just Natural Hygienist Doug Graham's effort at throwing numbers onto Natural Hygiene so that us "idiots" can understand it better.)
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on The proof is in the cherimoya.
Permalink Reply by Perry Fullerton on Just because one heals on a particular diet does not mean that the diet isn't causing harm. The Pritikin diet for example would allow people to heal of heart disease however after about a year of it they would then develop arthritis from all the grain consumption.
I'm not saying 811 isn't the best way to eat - it is. It's just not going to make you immune from everything tis all. It will however give you the best chance available at avoiding illness for the rest of your days.
Permalink Reply by sunwukung on Interesting, I think that it could be significant in this case that she ate at least four different diets and only cured two persistent symptoms with 811,and a pritikin version not worked either. It seems a bit like a process of elimination.
I didn't pretend to state that we are going to be inmune to disease (many other variables, you know), but that the 811 diet can be considered safe or complete in the long term, including what you express in your last sentence.
But your comment makes me think.
Permalink Reply by sunwukung on Yes, I know that we cannot conclude anything in an absolute way, a true valid for all the population, because there are too many unknown variables. But I think that extreme cases like this increases the probability of the statement to be really true by a great amount.
Permalink Reply by Macuilxochitl on Yeh, it's all about how you do on HCRV.
Permalink Reply by sunwukung on ok, but taking amoxicillin produces secondary bad effects, at this point imo we need a valid theory for interpret symptoms and their evolution to know how the body reacts to an external source of chemical subtances.
" just because an 811 diet can cure illnesses for certain individuals, does not mean that it is necessarily a long-term viable option for everyone."
of course, but as we human share a complete set of basic similarities of function, that extreme cases can say us that is the probability of a long-term viable option for everybody is very hig, this is my opinion now.
Permalink Reply by ORGANIC811LFRV on I am cured of 22 illnesses. This is proof enough for me.
I vote yes!!!!! It isn't so much that the food itself cures. The 100% raw food 811rv with sufficient calories provides the body with the fuel in order for the body to heal itself. Getting 8 hrs of sleep a night minimum average, drinking sufficient amounts of water each day, interactions with people, sunshine and activity are all part of this program. You honestly can't go wrong on this approach for us humans.
Now, for the sub-humans there are many approaches....LOL All leading them to illness and an early grave.
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