If 811rv is so natural then why are so many using drugs with the diet?

Good old DR admits and seems to be proud of using vitamin B12 shots.

Robby Barbaro uses B12 tablets.

Michael Arnstein uses salt pills when he runs.

These people are highly respected members of this community and of the 811rv community and all 3 are using totally non-natural (my words) drugs. When was the last time you saw B12 tablets growing on a tree or plant? Using injections is way more distant from nature. How can nature recreate an injection of any sort? and salt pills? What's up with that?

Dr. D himself (from what he says) doesn't use any of these and seems to be very successful for over 30 years. What are you guys doing that makes these necessary? Or are they?

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Permalink Reply by Julie on August 31, 2010 at 2:03am

wow! amazing ryan! i know fruit has a definite effect on mood, especially after reading 'left in the dark.'

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Permalink Reply by TheBananaGirl on August 31, 2010 at 1:03pm

hey Frank, the author is actually on this site, here is a link..
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/left-in-the-dark-qa

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Permalink Reply by rob on August 31, 2010 at 3:32am

That is so great to hear Ryan. Awesome. Congratulations.

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Permalink Reply by Kaylen on August 31, 2010 at 4:20pm

Good for you! :)
I had no idea that the drugs used for bipolar symptoms revolved around salt (or a salt like substance).
Very encouraging to keep consuming so many fruits. I swear I'll get used to it eventually. Lol

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Permalink Reply by hellcat on August 31, 2010 at 7:53pm

Totally agree - high fruit got me off the effexor and valium. Now I don't have panic attacks and I don't consider myself to have an "anxiety disorder" or "mood disorder" anymore =)

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Permalink Reply by Teri L on December 2, 2010 at 4:26pm

very inspirational :)

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Permalink Reply by Ryan Menzies on August 31, 2010 at 1:47am

I was talking about Psychiatrists, not Psychologists.....the difference being that Psychologists spend more time talking, seem to care more, and can't technically prescribe meds. :)

I came to a Psychiatrist knowing exactly what was wrong with me as I've pretty strong emotional intelligence. But, if you don't know what's wrong or want to know what maybe the root of the problem, then you go through psychotherapy, which can be a very useful tool for anyone in need.

Of course every case is different in severity, but maybe Psychologists should recommend more fruit for some of their patients before telling them to find Psychais.

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Permalink Reply by Ste on August 31, 2010 at 12:21pm

My bad :D And I definately agree!

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Permalink Reply by hellcat on August 31, 2010 at 7:55pm

Tee hee. I'm a psychologist =)

I have vegan stickers all over my drink bottle, which I take into sessions with me.... sometimes I start up some interesting conversations with my clients....

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Permalink Reply by Derek on August 31, 2010 at 2:59am

These guys are choosing to do this. They choose to be extreme athletes and thats what they have to do.

Using the word 'drug' is oh so wrong man.

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Permalink Reply by Debbie on August 31, 2010 at 5:18am

Arnstein tried celery juice on a 100 mile race and it didn't do any good. Salt pills are necessary for him to run the kind of races he does. I'm sure if he feels that he is going against nature by running so much he'll stop.

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Permalink Reply by cbs on August 31, 2010 at 5:24am

I think its very wrong of you to call food supplements drugs. I think its wrong of you to believe we live in a natural environment and not take into consideration the toxins we grew up with and health/absorption complications they bring about. I think its also wrong to feel purity is more important then health.

So you believe one should harm themselves or stop doing activities that also bring them health and happiness for sake of purity? Computers arent pure/vegan, cars arent vegan nor houses. Are you living out in the woods? That is more pure/natural. Where does it stop? For me its about health and doing the least harm. The rest is all about happiness. If you want to live out in the woods go ahead. I have sports and activities I wish to enjoy and will adjust my diet if it becomes harmful to my health and wellbeing.