I was told to eat cooked food and...MEAT! What do you think about this?

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Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on July 15, 2012 at 2:32am

Why do so many TCM doctors always say to eat meat, eggs and salt? I've been told by a couple of TCM doctors that I need to do that. It totally contradicts what I've read about TCM. In the books on TCM they always stress that a vegan diet is best (though they do think that grains are needed) and that meat should only be eaten by those who are severely malnourished and imbalanced (though I think that even that is unnecessary)

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Permalink Reply by Love on July 15, 2012 at 2:46am

Get this, the first nutrition center not only said I should eat meat, but they specified which kind. VEAL! Any veal lol. And the salt they specifically recommended by name? Table salt! lol This center was expensive, well credentialed etc supposedly was doing great work. Closed now haha pffft lol Follow your heart. I'm sure you'll get much better results. Connect to heart.

TCM docs wanted me eating EVERYTHING cooked too. They couldn't understand why I was improving as what they called ":dampness" and "cold" went up and eating all raw vegan.

Their rice kick? At best. Sure rice is better than SAD diet, but it's only a step, one we can do without.

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Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on July 15, 2012 at 10:26am

Wow! It blows my mind! I cant believe there are people who still cant seem to let go of the old food paradigm. Whenever I feel myself connecting to my heart I immediately want to go high carb low fat raw vegan. Nothing else seems to make sense! Its when my mind gets involved that I start to question it. So you got rid of dampness through raw vegan diet? That is so encouraging! :) Its funny, when I started this lifestyle a couple of months ago, after about 3 or 4 days I felt so amazing. My boyfriend and I went to see our Acupuncturist in town and without even telling him how I felt he checked my pulses and tongue and was like "wow! what a huge change! this has got to be dietary. what have you been doing?" I told him fruit and he was pretty surprised. He said that eventually it will cause dampness because I was eating too many bananas. haha!

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Permalink Reply by Sunshine on July 15, 2012 at 10:29am

like i said turn around and run

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Permalink Reply by Jon Fergus on July 15, 2012 at 10:34am

Dampness... haha. Ridiculous. This is a case of people using vague, illusive and meaningless words in place of real understanding.

Its when my mind gets involved that I start to question it.

I think this gives you all you really need. The difference between 'knowledge' and 'knowing' is very clear when one pauses to consider it. A brain full of information is worse than useless without the shining light that comes from a heart connected to truth.

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Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on July 15, 2012 at 11:31am

Great point Jon, I think as a society we are taught to listen to the "knowledge" part and not the "knowing" deep within our hearts. Even my parents, who mean well of course, constantly tell me "why dont you just listen to what people are telling you?! Why do you keep experimenting with these weird diets? Just eat like a normal person." but I know better. I feel so much better when I eat fruit its unbelievable. I just went for the most magnificent run. I never run! I only run when I am eating a fruit based vegan diet. I walk, run, play in the sun when I eat a fruit based diet. Otherwise I just sit at home all day not sure what to do. To me, from what I know about "dampness", that is what it is. Its sitting around all day not really feeling motivated to do anything... 

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Permalink Reply by Casey on July 16, 2012 at 11:04am

Ayurveda and TCM (both of which I'm well familiar with) are based around tending a body that you feed with cooked foods, including dairy and/or meat. They lose their truth outside of that context. Yes, some foods are hard to digest raw. You know, like kale, artichoke, onions and garlic - THINGS WE AREN'T MEANT TO EAT IN ANY FORM outside of sheer desperation.

I used to be really into herbs, definitely healthier than pharmaceutical medicines. But medicines are for when you're sick, and if you stick with raw foods, YOU WON'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM. I can't emphasize that enough. Look at the many people who have reversed "uncurable" ailments on this diet.

Of COURSE you get diarrhea after a week or so, that's perfectly normal and well-documented. Your intestinal flora are adjusting to meet your new diet, and furthermore your body finally starts to let go some long-stored toxicity. Stick with it and after a while 100%, you'll be amazed. There will never be any odor to it, and you won't need toilet paper anymore. But you have to get there first. Stop believing in the "I can't" mentality, and just DO it. Eat lots of fruit (melons are great!) and fight through whatever cravings come. Be grateful for toxicity coming out of your body when it does, that's WAY BETTER than it being stuck inside. Don't rush to medicines/herbs just to treat symptoms; leave them alone!. When you get sick with detoxing, just get lots of water and bed rest. You will literally feel 10 years younger once you get through it. Stay on 100% fruit for a 30-day challenge (this is mentally easier than thinking it's forever). Once day 30 comes, go for 60. Then go for 90. By then you'll be feeling pretty darn goon and will want to see how far you can take it - all downhill from there.

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Permalink Reply by Ben on July 16, 2012 at 9:25pm

IMHO, LIGHTHEADEDENESS is a sign of Detoxification. If you want to get truely healthy, you have to go through it all. But you can decide to do it more slowly, if you decide to transition more slowly with a low fat cooked vegan died for dinner (and maybe lunch). Why don't you stick to the 80/10/10 low fat cooked vegan diet for a while and then move to the 80/10/10 or 90/5/5 rv diet.

Ayurveda or TCM make the people perhaps feel 10% better than how they feel on average. They don't go all the way, they don't make you feel 100% better.

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Permalink Reply by Ben on July 16, 2012 at 9:30pm

by the way, as far as I am concerned, in china the people traditionally consumed a lot of veggies and they didn#t consume a lot of dairy products like milk, cheese and so on (which is a very harmful group of "food" if you can call it so). Maybe one of the reasons why the traditionally living chinese were more healthy than the average western person. In the villages in China where the people are eating a traditional diet the people are still mostly very slim, unlike in western Europe or the US (or unlike in the huge modern chinese cities where the people adapted a western lifestyle and got equally sick).

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