30Bad seems to be dominated by these types of threads lately.
So you've gained weight after years of abusing your body. Cry me a river. Perhaps instead of being so vain as to focus your entire existence around your waist measurement, take a moment to be grateful for the fact that you actually have food to eat. Take a minute to remember that you are privileged enough to be able to choose health.
Millions of people in this world are starving to death, but your life is over because you think you're too fat to exercise. That'll help. Sit on the couch on your new fat arse wallowing in self pity. Or You could accept that your body needs time to heal and get out there and move your ass!
This is how fat I've gotten on fruit after two years of following this lifestyle. AND folks, this is just after I went 40 days without a bowel movement and was retaining tons of water due to extreme stress!
There's all this talk of long timers supposedly gaining weight and have troubles with fitness. I haven't seen it yet. Where are the pictures? Who are these fat long term fruit eaters? I sure don't feel fat. I could list a whole lot of fit long term fruit eaters:
Kristina Carrillo Bucaram
Drew McCall Burke
It goes on and on...
So instead of feeling sorry for your privileged self, find a hobby. Volunteer. Exercise. Live. Stop spending every moment of time stepping on the scale checking how much weight you've gained and be grateful for your life.
I know...I can't imagine ever going through that again. It's all about balance. I can't give up my health for volunteer. There has to be a compromise between the two!
I don't come to 30BAD often, but this is the very issue that brings me here today.
Brief history of raw foods - committed to 100% raw in May of 2006. Read 80/10/10 in Oct of 2007. Somewhere in there, I lost 30 pounds. My fat intake was probably just over 10%, and I probably was under-eating inadvertently on a regular basis.
May 2011, I finally started ramping up the exercise. I am currently doing about an hour a day, including a good mix of resistance/strength, high intensity interval training, and running, as well as yoga and other various activities.
About 3 months ago, I realized I forgot to start eating more with the increased exercise. I hadn't been sleeping well, and of course not always making the best choices (but pretty good mostly). So I started eating more and of course I gained weight very quickly. I now find myself 20 pounds over what I weighed last summer. I get all the "this too shall pass" and all, and I'm trying really hard to be patient. But I have no clothes that fit (because I gave all the old ones away when I'd maintained the loss for a couple of years), and I know that I'm on the right path and it will eventually melt away. I need some reassurance of how long to expect it to take. I don't want to have to buy new clothes that are bigger just because I wanted to lose the last 10 pounds (which is now more like 30).
So technically, you could call me a (fairly) long term high carb raw fooder who is overweight. I'm not going to post a picture, but there you are (my scale- which I rarely visit- calculates my body fat % and says I'm at 33%, up a little from when I really started the strength training). If anyone has suggestions of something maybe I've overlooked, I would be most grateful.
Spend $50 at Goodwill on a "new" wardrobe that fits. It's no fun to wear things that are uncomfortable and ill-fitting... it's like a downer every day. Those bio-electrical impedence scales are pretty suspect for accuracy. You could get a caliper test, but why sweat it? You were restricting, now you're not, you know you're on the right track, do what's fun and skip what's not.
You say: About 3 months ago, I realized I forgot to start eating more with the increased exercise. I hadn't been sleeping well, and of course not always making the best choices (but pretty good mostly). So I started eating more and of course I gained weight very quickly. realized I forgot to start eating more with the increased exercise.
So you are 3 months in being high carb and eating enough to be healthy while coming off of inadvertently under eating for nearly 6 years?
Numerous people on 30BaD have shared that after a past of under eating and then eating enough they gain weight at first. This seems to be normal. While at the same time experiencing very positive health benefits from eating more calories, including glowing skin, deeper sleep, better mood, clearer mind etc. The body does balance out the weight in time as it heals, given all the right conditions, plenty of sleep and water etc. Some report a few months before they stop gaining and start losing and others report more than a year. Adrienne wrote a sweet post on this topic: How to accept possible fluid/glycogen/fat/blood/lymph weight gain a...
Thanks for sharing the link.
I posted an update on another topic. (http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/who-is-not-losing-gaining...).
It's good to get some perspective. I feel that I've been "healing" for such a long time (I went gluten-free in 1997), that I sometimes can't help wonder that I still have such a long way to go.
Beautiful message Shannana!
Thank you so much for this!!!!
TS with the reality take home message. 'Where are the fat long termers?'. Gold!
If we look at the names mentioned some girls are fitter than others but EVERYBODY is trim NO exceptions.
I was at boxing training last night, you can be an obese boxer with world class boxing skills. Plenty of world class boxers out there with big fat guts but NO long term fruit eaters with big fat guts lol!
DR, if you have the time, could you address Kyndra's post on this thread regarding how she gained a significant amount of weight doing low fat high carb raw vegan 80 10 10 while exercising and eating no cooked food or salt. As someone very new to this lifestyle, reading posts like that are very concerning. I believe in this lifestyle 100% for health, but when I see people post things like it really confuses me and puts fears in my head that, that could happen to me if I just go full force into eating all the fruit I care for, which by the way is A LOT of fruit. I could eat medjool dates and dried figs till they came out my ears :)
health is not defined by weight. being overweigh or underweight may be a result of being unhealthy, but it's not the weight that is the problem, it is the underlying health issues. an excess or a lack of weight is not inherently unhealthy.
could you address Kyndra's post on this thread regarding how she gained a significant amount of weight doing low fat high carb raw vegan 80 10 10 while exercising and eating no cooked food or salt
Jessica, there's really not much to it: Kyndra had a lot of health issues prior to HCRV and didn't follow the lifestyle 100 % for a year. She DID eat cooked foods and she DID eat salt during that time. So no reason to be concerned. If you follow HCRV for at least 2 years, you WILL start to see results. If you used to have an eating disorder, drug or alcohol abuse (or in this case, all three), your body probably needs more time for rest and healing itself, without over-training.
But why to Freelee and DR both say in their videos that you can eat unlmited fruit even if you are still eating plain, low fat cooked carbs? And it is only recently that DR now clearly states that low fat and low salt means no oil and virtually no salt! People coming from a cooked food diet could make an assumption from these earlier videos that low fat could mean a teaspoon of oil with their cooked meal and low salt a pinch of salt. I'm sure you can be lean on very plain carbs, but mybe you can't if your mixing it with a very high quantity of fruit. They should also tell people that not following the principles consistantly (i.e. water, sugar (raw or cooked) sleep, they may gain alot of weight.