Sorry guys, I don't know if I can do this diet anymore. It's too much sugar. Hard to believe in any diet. I'm going back to some more salads and low glycemic fruits and foods that are just more on the lower level like oatmeal or something. Man oh man, it's been rough for me. I just wish these problems would go away, I'm in too much pain, every day I'm hoping it's not the last.
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Permalink Reply by DUNCAN LEWIS on February 20, 2012 at 11:50am just to clarify. I was asked previously what dietary regime i follow currently and i replied - i didnt recommend low carb - i merely informed that i have used it. I do not dump on 801010 as I have several times acknowledged that it works. I merely have queried (without success) how it works and whether a sedentary person could still do it when calorie intake is so high or if the calorie intake can be reduced.
Cancer does feed on sugar. That has been shown many times. That is why total fasting works to stop cancer growth.
Permalink Reply by Derek on February 20, 2012 at 12:03pm then why is the gerson therapy totally reliant on plant foods??
the protocol calls for juicing which would give you the biggest sugar rush :P
Permalink Reply by DUNCAN LEWIS on February 20, 2012 at 12:07pm i dont know - maybe you can point me to a study showing its efficacy?
Permalink Reply by vegan witch Ⓥ on February 25, 2012 at 11:15am
Desirable Foods for the Gerson diet
Asparagus
APPLES
APRICOTS
Artichoke
Arugula
Beets and tops Broccoli
Brown sugar
Horseradish (grated, not bottled)
Cabbage, red & leaves (smaller quantities–gas producing)
Carrots
Cauliflower Celery Knob or stalks
Chards, all kinds Cherries Chicory Chives
Cilantro Corn (ONLY if allowed by physician) Currants
Eggplant
Endives
Escarole
Flax oil (organic, not high lignan)
Fruit dried unsulphured as raisins,
PEACHES
DATES
FIGS
prunes (stewed or pre-soaked only)
FRESH FRUITS (except all berries and pineapple)
Garlic
GRAPEFRUIT
GRAPES
Green beans
Honey Juices, freshly pressed, as prescribed
Kale Leeks Lemons* Lettuce
MANGOS
ANY MELON
Oatmeal
Onions
Oranges*
Parsley
parsley root
PEACHES
PEARS
Pepper, green and red Bell pepper Plums Potatoes
Radishes (not the leaves)
Raw fruit Rhubarb
Rice brown (if allowed)
Romaine Rye bread (unsalted, non-fat)
Spices (small amounts only):
allspice, anise, bay leaves, Coriander, dill, fennel, mace, marjoram, rosemary, sage, saffron, tarragon, thyme, sorrel, summer savory. Spinach (cooked only)
Squash Sweet
potatoes
Swiss chard
Tangerines
Tomatoes
Vegetables (except mushrooms, leaves of: carrots, radishes, spinach and mustard green)
Vinegar (wine or cider)
Watercress
Yams
Zucchini
Permalink Reply by Chuckster on February 20, 2012 at 12:04pm Not necessarily Duncan. Fasting has other benefits. It allows the body to focus on the problems, such as the conditions that allowed the cancer to start in the first place. It's these simple associations (cancer feeds on sugar) that often get us in trouble.
Permalink Reply by DUNCAN LEWIS on February 20, 2012 at 12:11pm cancer isnt simple which is why there is still no cure for many but medical research is making steps. 85% of childhood leukemia is now cured as an example.
But as you know "all cells use glucose for fuel." Well that is true for cancer cells too. But a fair amount of cancers (there are many different types) are unable to metabolise anything except glucose. Lowering blood sugar slows the growth. if you eat nothing then your body will start metabolising fat.
Except for the cancer cells.
Permalink Reply by DURIANRIDER on February 25, 2012 at 11:07am If cancer feeds on sugar then how come so many people have reversed their cancer on exclusive fruit intakes lol!
'The Grape cure'
Carrot juice fasts
Gerson therapy etc. They are all 9/5/5. The only way to get higher sugar % would be to do a fast on refined sugar. Then you would be 100/0/0.
Permalink Reply by Datiger on March 19, 2012 at 7:34pm What about herbs when doing the juice fast? Also, try it for a week or 100 day?
Going 100 days is really reaching, but if I have enough faith in it, I might try, but I'll try a week and see how I feel. It seems like there's a lot of veggies and not much fruit on the list. Where did you get this info? Cool thanks man!
Permalink Reply by Slimmy on February 20, 2012 at 1:34am Hi, have you looked into the possibility that you have a fungal problem in your body? I have tried 80/10/10 a couple of times but it just wasn't possible because I would just keep feeding the fungus in the body. Fat levels didn't matter at all, I was even under 5% all the time.
I'm not going to bore you with my life story, I've been trying a lot of things to get rid of the fungus overgrowth (been on plant based diet over 2 years) and it seems like I might have found something that works for me. I've been taking an oxygen supplement for three days and the effect has been pretty amazing. I've been eating fruits all day without any issues at all, and my skin that normally dry up a lot is very moist. I'm not talking about simple candida issue here though, I'm talking about fungus overgrowth that I've had for over 20 years that has spread to a lot of places in the body.
So if you have ever taken a Candida test and score high on that, it might be worth researching oxygen supplement (for blood/white blood cells) together with probiotics (for your gut). Personally I think a lot of people on this board might have fungus issues, because if you start to get dry skin from eating lots of fruits, it can be a sign of fungus. It's like a sponge when you feed it and it blooms out.
Not sure if I can post link to the supplement I use, because it comes with $5 discount (ref link), so if anyone is interested in that just PM me.
Permalink Reply by Datiger on February 20, 2012 at 5:04pm Interesting. I've heard of candida, a nutritionist said that I had it, but who knows I've got to so many places. Oxygen supplement? We all love to breathe and get more oxygen :)
Interesting. Send me a link, I'll check it out. Honestly I try not to get entangled with supplement and stuff, but send me a PM of the link and your story and I'll look into it.
Thanks,
Slimmy
Permalink Reply by PJ on February 20, 2012 at 8:10am Yeah I thought this too. If you're eating too much fat and add that to a ton of sugar you're looking for an explosive kind of reaction. I had mild chest pains the first couple months LFRV.
I agree with the other posters about candida / fungal issues.
Permalink Reply by DUNCAN LEWIS on February 20, 2012 at 9:56am You should actually check out the condition he has then tell me a diet can cure it.
"Pheocrhomocytoma". look it up.
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