So I'm having a major binge-out on cooked food today. One slip up a couple of weeks ago and I cant seem to get back on track! I dont know why I keep doing that. I feel like if I were to just have one cooked meal and stop then maybe thats OK but I just seem to go for everything that I like that is cooked. I havent had anything "unhealthy" (I guess it depends on your standards). I had some avocado, temphe, lentil soup, quinoa, basmati rice, brown rice pasta with homemade marinara sauce, edamame. Just wanna stay home and eat. I had planned to do a 30 day raw commitment like many of you suggested but couldnt even get through 3 days. I started feeling really nauseous at the thought of raw food and was only able to handle oranges. I dont know why that happened! I got really depressed too and was obviously not getting enough cals. Everyone has been so supportive here and I feel embarrassed that I keep failing and posting about it but I cannot shake the feeling that this is what I need to do so I just need advice I guess. What have your methods been for sticking this out longer?
Permalink Reply by Morgan on Make sure, too, that you don't have dental metal. (metal mercury fillings, and other dental work) - this might be making you sick and also creates addiction to some foods (gluten, casein and others). For me, it also makes me feel very sick when I eat most cooked foods. (though I've had mine out) That's why I figured I'd mention it. Just in case you had some dental work. It's not something we naturally think of..
Permalink Reply by ednshell on Yes and make sure if you have any tooth colored fillings that they don't have metal in them as they usually do as well as toxic plastic. You can ask for a material safety data sheet from your dentist on any product they use, including the bonding agent, numbing agent.
We have our dentists use diamondlite materials, which have very high bio compatibility.
http://livingnetwork.co.za/dentalnetwork/dental-material-lists/meta...
are you stressed?
Permalink Reply by Emi Sky on Just say to yourself: From now until I go to sleep, I am raw. Regardless of what you just ate, even if it was a huge bowl of cooked rice. Just for the rest of that day, you will be raw. Then tomorrow say: Today I'm going to be raw. Don't think about tomorrow and don't think about how you want to be raw for 6 months or wtv. Just think: toady I'm going to be raw. Just think about the now and don't worry too much about the future.
This method really helped me, I would say that phrase to myself everyday with a huge smile on my face. And after about 6 days I didn't need to say it anymore because my body just knew it already because it got into a pattern of it.
Good luck! :)
Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on Emi, that is great advice! I think a big mistake of mine was that I said "I'm going to be 30 days fully raw". Well, 3 days in and I was already wondering how I was going to make it for 27 more days. I should probably set smaller goals. I was thinking a week but maybe day by day is best!
Permalink Reply by Greenmama on The behavior you are describing can be triggered by not eating enough! I go to a 12 step group, too, for binge eating. I do find a benefit in the spiritual principles of the program that I learned there. And I do believe there may be some physical problem that might predispose someone to addictive behavior, BUT it could just be, your body is starving for adequate carbs. If you had a period of calorie restriction/ carb restriction (and most people in our culture do, because the mainstream diet is so heavy in animal products and fats), then your binge-ing problem, whether on food or on alcohol, could be as simple as being under-carbed. I did not get any relief from my junk food binges until I started eating an average of 3500 calories, and this is why I blog here every day, to try to convince young women to please eat enough so they can start living!
Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on I totally agree with that Greenamama! I know i havent been eating enough fruit cals. Its just so hard to get them in! I think that binge eating definitely starts from restricting calories. Unfortunately, it is perpetuated by more than that. A lot of the reasons why I want to binge these days is because I have an association with it that is pleasant (though the after affect NEVER is). Whenever I've allowed myself "just one last day of eating whatever I want, however much I want and thats the last day EVER!" (yea right, like that ever works) it felt so liberating. That feeling of excitement I felt of being able to do what I wanted without worrying is what keeps me feeling like I want to have just one more day of eating what I want. However, that feeling is lessened tremendously when I am eating enough. My sister has binge disorder and any time she would have a major binge, it was always after long periods of calorie restriction. I'm curious. How do you deal with eating 3500 calories of fruit a day when OA has pretty specific guidelines for how a recovering overeater should eat? Also, how do your fellow OA friends react to your dietary choices? I ask because I think that a fruitarian lifestyle is ideal for recovering over eaters but my sister is on a very strict diet that she was put on by the program. That never made sense to me. She is incredibly skinny now and I cant imagine how that could be healthy
Permalink Reply by molly clare on Viktoriya...I read something a few weeks ago when I decided to start making real changes that stick. I think I may have come across it 30bananas, not sure, but it is: "Today can be a new day, or it can be like yesterday...I choose a new day!" And from that day forward I have been on this path. Hitting "rock bottom" is what really kicked me into gear...these revelations like, "if i can't care for myself, nobody can!" and not wanting to go down the bulimic road again, which was something I used to do to comfort myself, although ironically it also kept me miserable. I also came across something the other night that said "all suffering is self imposed"... This is huge! It is not something that we need to feel any shame or guilt about the past and the things we may have done to keep ourselves in suffering mode...but it is about acknowledging that and saying well...today can be a new day, or it can be like yesterday :) So let us choose a new day!
Permalink Reply by Greenmama on OA does not have very specific guidelines for how recovering overeaters should eat. They suggest that you identify your trigger foods and trigger eating behaviors and abstain from them. They also suggest that you have a plan of eating, but that is just a tool, and not a substitute for working the steps.
No one has ever questioned what I eat or how much. However, your sister may go to a group that interprets things differently, or have a sponsor who suggests those things.
There is a branch of OA called HOW, where member may choose a specific food plan and weigh and measure their food. But that is still just considered a tool, and not a substitute for the spiritual program which is the foundation of all 12 step recovery groups.
The primary thing that I abstain from is under-eating since I became aware that was the problem that was causing me to binge on junk food. I would undereat for 3 days and then binge out, and repeat that over and over. I also abstain from dairy and processed foods, but that is really easy when I am not under-eating.
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