30 Bananas a Day!

Hello!!


This is a bit difficult and complicated to explain, so please bear with me :) 


At the moment I am in England, not really for holiday but to be with my brother who lives here and my mum who came with me. 


As a family we are going through an extremely tough time at the moment (this is not random, it is to explain the next bit! :) Long story short my dad has gone to
prison for possibly one of the worse crimes you can commit and we are not going
to see him again. He used to be mine and my brother's hero, but he has been
lying to us all and our whole childhood is basically a lie. 



My brother got the worse brunt of this and was confused, maddened, depressed and in disbelief, and turned to alcohol and drugs as escapism and a way to
numb his escalating emotions. 


He was an emotional wreck when he found Jake while looking for work. Jake, of Indian origin, owns a cafe and got on really well with Liam. He took him under his
wing, providing him with a place to stay, free food and a family setting. This
was about 5 weeks ago, and since Jake has blessedly got him off drugs
and alcohol. This is all great and amazing. Around 3 weeks ago my mum went
to England to sort out stuff. Then they both asked me to come so we could all
be together. So I came last week.


(I have lots of positive things to say about my stay here, but as this is a rant, I am just going to focus on what is not!! :) 



Jake has helped changed a LOT of people for the better. He is kind of like a councilor (or a bit like Mother Teresa). He just lives to help as many
people as he can for no personal gain. And please don't get me wrong after
reading this, I am soooo glad my brother found him. 


Everyone holds really high opinions about him, like anything he says is right. And most of what he says is very knowledgeable and wise and whatever,
BUTTTTT.......



The first thing I noticed is that my mum had started eating meat again under the encouragement of Jake. I was, of course quite upset by this but Jake just said
"No, no, you're mum needs meat now. Besides, it's turkey and
low-fat". ERG. 



Then he saw me eating. (and during this time I have actually been eating a fraction of what I normally eat!!) His first reaction is that he took me aside and said "AJ, you are eating too much fruit. You would be better
off eating a few donuts than all of that fruit
 (he was SERIOUS) It's going to damage you're liver!". Well, kind of just the
normal reaction we get, right? ;)

 He then went on to tell me that he used to eat a lot of grapes (1 stalk?;) and that he developed blood sugar problems so he went to his doctor and he told him to cut out grapes. He did and his blood sugar problems went away. I explained to him the link between a high fat diet and blood sugar problems but he didn't say anything. (And he really does eat a VERY high fat diet even though he doesn't think so. You should SEE the amount of oil he uses in cooking and every surface in the kitchen is GREASY!). 


A few days ago it was my birthday and my brother took me to the grocer's to get some stuff. When we got there He told me that I am only allowed to buy maximum 3 pieces of fruit as I was eating too much and that it is going to damage my liver. I did get upset and just left the shop and went up the road to another grocery store where I bought 3 cartons of strawberries. I came back and he said "You're unbelievable! That's more like 50 pieces of fruit not 3! (Like 1 strawberry counts as 1 fruit anyway?) See, you're just showing me you're unflexability as you can't go without fruit for just one day. You're just like me when I was on drink and drugs. I was spending all my money on them, wouldn't go places where I couldn't get them...". 

All all the way back home he then explained that how everyone around me but me could see how I was putting myself on a pedestal by eating only fruits and veggies and how egoistic it was as it offends other people when I don't try their food, and how I was doing myself a disfavor by not trying new things and how I was being "hollier than thou" or whatever and how it was just my pride talking and how I'm shutting all my doors by being so narrow minded ect, ect. 

 Then, he goes and buys a (n organic) ginger beer and asks me to take a sip. He wants to prove his point but of course I say "no thank you" so then he's like "see! No harm is going to come from taking a sip. I am not asking you to drink the whole can, just asking you to take a sip. No biggie!" I said no thank you again. "See! Thats your ego talking! What makes you better than me in that you can't drink this!? Why is it too good for you but not for me?" I told him about the environmental impacts (monocrop, litter ect), the animal impacts (affects of monocrops on biodiversity ect), the health impacts (obvious:) and that I choose not to because I don't want to support that kind of thing. But he just said "Look, I've already bought the beer. And I'm going to drink it no matter what. So  Not of your ethics are going to be compromised by just ONE sip." ERG. The he tried a nother tactic I guess I am quite hard headed and when someone winds me up I get even more so so I just said "NO! thank you" and walked away.

His next point is that I run away from everything as I am spoiled when I don't get what I want (fresh fruit and veg is ALL I want? Wow, I really am spoiled!:) and how selfish that is and that it is a luxury as we don't have any money and that I spend my money on that (Oh, but you having 3 teas a round nearly everyday in a cafe costing £1 pound each isn't a luxury?) . But he says he's telling me this cuz he loves and cares for me and doesn't want to see me putting my self in a box and not being open-minded. 


(Note about my brother: I love my brother so much and he understands me better than probably anyone. He holds much the same values and ethics as me (he is a timber frame builder and wants to build his house in the woods :) but I guess the difference is that he does not practice them. He respects and admires me for a lot and embraces aspects of the raw food lifestyle but obviously not to the extreme :) But for the last 4 years we have lived apart (in different countries) so he has missed much of my life. And when I came to England this summer, I was/am in a bad place, and I am more reserved than usual as that is how I deal with stress and depression. He took this as how I usually act and concludes that it is because of my food ways. 


Okay, so that was the morning! lol! On the way back from the grocery shop me and my brother meet my mum and Jake at a Cafe. It seems that they all have the same agenda to get me to change my ways. These are just some of the things Jake said to me:

" What do you value more, your brother or my diet?" (To which I obviously responded "My brother" and then he said "Well then, why don't you drink some coffee?" WTF? Just because I eat only raw food it means I don't love my family?????)

"You've got a fixation on your diet. Out of all 17teen year old I'v met, you're the most concerned about what you eat" (Maybe cuz you've never met a 17 year old raw foodist!?!? And all the teens youv met eat junk???

"It's not even you're own opinion. You just think you know it all because you've read some book and read stuff on the internet. Don't believe everything you read"

"At your age, you can't be so close.minded. YOu need a blanced diet. A bit of meat, a bit of milk. It's all good"

"My advice is to keep your diet open at your age. The world around you is surviving on cooked food. It is not poison. Have a cooked meal with your mum once in a while. It will make her happy."

"It's all about compromising. I am not saying raw fruits or veg are bad, just don't limit yourself. All I see is people compromising to you, eating more fruit and veg, but you make no compromise to eat their food" 

"You're tricking yourself, cutting yourself off, always doing stuff one way"

"You're becoming a fascist with your rigid ways"

"If someone you love offers you cooked food, don't let your pride get in the way, try it"

"Taking a sip of ginger beer makes your points more valid as right now you're too one-sided."

"You might as well make life easier for yourself as life is difficult as it is!"

"It's becoming an obsession"

"You seem so cut-off " IDK, maybe thats cuz I just lost my DAD? and that you know nothing about my life and just met me a few days ago?!

"Never seen a 17yo so obsessed about food"

"We arn't meant to eat only veg. After all my mother wasn't a vegetable, we arn't made of vegetables" WTF?


This was in just ONE sitting! We stayed at that cafe listening to him talk for 3 HOURS! And everyone was like nodding their heads to what he said as if he's a flippin guru (which he believes he is) and he would hardly let me talk. I felt cornered and attacked :( Not nice. I am not saying that I wasn't listening. he obviously made me think and what I have to learn is to try and take this positively and not be offended as I know they just mean well. But I know the problem is not in the food. For me, I need to learn how to be more open and confident as a person. But that's another story ;)

 I was just so dumbfounded by some of the arrogant and uninformed (sorry, if that sounds harsh, but it is true) stuff he said. 


The next day went similar, as we all went to a cafe again (as everyday we all go for a walk). This time he really RANTed and didn't stop and was even almost SHOUTING at me. Again, everyone else was noding and saying "he's right" ERG. It really pissed me off.

Some of the stuff he said:

"Permaculture and organic food is not the solution to poverty" (I never even said it was)

"Learn to be a economist and then you will make a difference in people's lives"

"All you Western people worry about food but don't put your energy into helping people"

"My sister had 15 children. That's 15 mouths to feed! If my sister had to go looking for organic food and spend extra money, they would have never had got an education!!! And here YOU are saying that cooked food is POISON! Well, excuse me, they were even having WHITE rice, not even brown rice and they're still ALIVE. I can tell you that if my sister did tht she would not have died a saint"

"You've put your mother in a trap. And forced her into eating better. You've influenced her with all your fruit and veg. A bad influence" OMG, I think I just have to laugh........

"It's okay to be wrong. You must have to admit it"

"Follow the truth. What I am saying is not opinion. It is fact. I am speaking the truth. " Okay, that REALLY pissed me off. 


Most of what he said was based on assumptions. And applying Western ideas on the developing world, which REALLY does not work. Besides, actually a large proportion of WHY I eat the way I do IS to help people and poverty as what we eat AFFECTS people so much. And NO I don't think and didn't say anything of the like that I think that people in poor countries need to go veggie or eat only organic food! OMG! How ignorant is he? But the fact is what we eat in the WEST determined a lot of what goes on in poorer countries and either helps them or destroy their land. The fact that he does not recognize this already tells me he is UNINFORMED and obviously has not researched this area.... what makes e so made is how he thinks he can comment on it with such authority!??!


So yes, now he has gotten everyone convinced that I need to start to eat cooked food to have an open-mind and has even started to cook me dishes.... last night he said, "here this is for you, it's just some cooked veggies in olive oil"... the veggies were drowned in olive oil and salt and spices. I just politely said "It looks great, but no thank you" ERG. Well OF COURSE IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE I MAKE A BIG DEAL ABOUT NOT EATING COOKED FOOD IF I HAVE TO REJECT IT ALL THE TIME IF THEY KEEP ASKING ME TO EAT IT WHEN THEY KNOW I DONT. arggggggg!!!!!! I feel like I am fighting a loosing battle with them!

And also last night when my mum came back she dipped her fork into the sauce on her plate and said "Just have a lick at this. Look at how little we are talking about". I mean, WHY BOTHER? If it's so little why the f*** should I even be inclined to eat it!?!? Honestly, they are actually pushing me away from cooked food even more, as I tend to rebel against people who force stuff on me anyway! BUt it do just feel outnumbered and that this is UNNECESSARY!? I just want to turn this England trip into a positive experience!! (We are having lots of good moments too though!) But the food moments too! I am starting to feel guilty about eating food (fruit) around them though as I know they are thinking badly of it. 

The problem is my confidence. I wish I had the confidence to just sit down with them while they are eating and get out my 12 bananas or something and eat WITH them, just like it was normal. But I'm just not there yet and it's partly becaus I feel I don't have any support. MAN I wish I also lived with / knew other 80/10/10ers. It would be so much easier if I wasn't on my own! :P


If anyone could offer some advice or support on what do to or thing I could say it could be much appreciated :)))))))))))) What would you do?


Thank you! And sorry for this being so long!! 



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AJ,

I'm in England, just outside London

First off, I'm Indian and so is all of my family and most of my friends. Without too much detail, everyone thinks I've lost the plot. My sister recently called me an ethopian (no intention to offend anyone, just repeating what waas said) since I believe man orignated from there and I consume an ape like diet. Mother thinks I'm depressed and brainwashed by people such as Dr Graham. They believe no one consumes only fruit and veg (LOL, if they saw this site, they would most likely say, I created it to try and lie to them, and that's no joke). Some people will take a lot more understanding than others, though everyone comes around eventually.

Indian people thoroughly enjoy telling others what to do. Lets take my uncle, who has had his gall bladder removed thanks to excessive alcohol in his life. He told me that I'm mentally disturbed eating in such a fashion. Virtually every single one of my relatives will give anyone dietary advice. They are so unhealthy and ill-looking in appearance that I would never even think of taking health advice from them.

The point is that you must not give in, never believe what they say. They just wish to feel better about their own choices. This man which you speak of, "jake". Personaly, I believe that he knows deep down what he is doing is unhealthful. However, he currently lacks the discpline and motivation to change his diet and lifestyle. Therefore, he makes himself feel better and at ease my ensuring more of those around him eat and act in accordance with his own choices. In this way, he is able to no longer be the odd one out and can conveniently pick on someone who is unique and extraordinary, as you are AJ.

I'm not entirely sure what kind of "complex" this Jake fellow has. Are you sure he is Indian? I would expect him to have an Indian name. He seems like a "nock-off-nigel" type of Indian Guru, lol. At least tell him to choose a traditional Indian Guru name such as "Swami 'I talk ballogney'" or something along thse lines :-)
Simply put, If It were me I would tell him to keep his opinion to himself. I would Say, "I'm sorry, you seem to be mistaken. It seems that you feel I actually care for anything you have to say. Well, I'm sorry, I wish to remind you that I do not. I am happy eating the way I am and do not criticse your dietary or lifestlye choices. I would appreciate the same courtesy and respect in return. If you are unable to do this then I would rather sit at a different table. Thank you and enjoy your meal/food, as I am doing. [Insert a warm, genuine and wide smile :-)]"

I'm a little short for time right now, but I hope this helps. You can send me a personal message and we can speak via email. I can usually reply most days.

Mang0-Man

"People laugh because I'm different. I laugh because they are all the same"
They obviously attack you out of their own insecurity, so I would first of all recommend being sympathetic rather than aggressive in your responses. I know it's frustrating, but it's always better to stay cool. Just remember that they are doing this because your lifestyle pulls them out of their state of ignorance, making them anxious, which forces them to consider their own lifestyle and its implications. The problem is that most people don't have the mental capacity to handle these heavy emotions, thus they subconsciously use techniques to sweep them under the rug (which in this case seems to be attacking you, projecting their problems to you etc).

Just make sure that you understand and remember this, because it's really important as it's easy to get angry at them over this whole thing. They mean you no harm, they are just unconsciously trying to cope with their anxiety. Thus there is no point in trying to argue with them, because they will not be rational in their responses (as they will use every possible trick to hide from the truth because of the anxiety it brings).

There are some great ways to handle this though. If you are being attacked, especially when being attacked by a group, try to avoid being on the defensive. No matter how much you know, and how stubborn you are, it's just impossible to not wear out from the constant attacking. The thing is that you can always turn the table by asking a question as a response. For example, if they ask you to taste something, you can always ask "Why would I want to do that?" or "How would it benefit me?" etc. Just keep asking the right questions until they just can't seem to hide from your point any more, whereas they probably will just leave or change the subject.

If you just cope with all of this, and work your way through it, you will see some results later on. After a while the truth will be more easy to digest for them, thus they will start to accept it. I was attacked by a lot of people at school for several months and stood through it, and after that, some of them actually started to admit that I actually looked great, that my acne was disappearing, and that my running performances were just insane. And believe me, they were just horribly irrational and irritating before, the sort of people that you never thought would change. Expect that some people take more time than others though.

I feel you and I know how stressing this whole situation is, so I wish you the best of luck, and hope that it will get better soon! :)

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