You cant deny she has your best interest in mind, so how do you tell her you're living on frut with out expecting nothing less than a minor FREAK OUT?
Ever since I transitioned to veganism my mother has been up my ass about being "difficult". She insists that I at least eat cheese and not refuse to use butter or chicken broth. Reasons being that people are going to think I'm insane for beig super specific when ordering food at restaurants or refrain from eating at all, and because she believes that it's just not enough nutritionally.
so... any advice. I try my best to explain the basics and offer more if shed like to listen, but either way she is convinced I'm falling off the deep end or on some sort of drugs lol
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Permalink Reply by djd on April 25, 2012 at 2:10am I'm a mother. :-)) When my son spoke of this way of eating it sounded quite extreme to me. However, after I read the book The 80 10 10 Diet, I thought I can't know unless I try so my husband and I embarked on a two week trial. The unfortunate thing is that we felt better after those two weeks and so, if we are honest, must change. :-)
I think using, showing cronometer results is a good idea apart from the 0% B12 and the low calcium (which can be justified by needing less due to less acidity since one is not eating meat).
Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on April 25, 2012 at 2:36am cool the problem with my dad is that dispite his pain, he thing i cando it, but life is not about food and there was nothing like fruit and unless overeating peoplewere generally healthy on any diet...
Permalink Reply by Myca on April 25, 2012 at 3:14am Go down to the store and buy a bag full of candy, chips, cookies, Ramon noodles, that sausage in a can and dump it all out on the table and tell her that is your new diet. Tell her you will never eat another green thing in your life.
Let her believe that a while and then tell her about your fruit and vegetable diet.
See, I have 6 kids. Even in my biggest meat eating days, I would have been beside myself with joy if one of them came home and said all they were going to eat was fruit. The only bursting of my bubble would have been if they would have expected me to change. At that time, I would not have listened.
'I don't have to cook it? No? Wonderful!! See if you can get your sisters to go on this diet with you!'
Buy Mom the book, let her read it. Tell her you would like to 'try' it. Tell her that you will go to the doctor for checkups. Tell her you will eat at least 3000 calories a day. Tell her that if you become ill due to this diet, you will go to the doctor with her and agree to come off the diet. Ask for her support in this endeavor.
If you agree to all that, you will sound very reasonable. Plus she knows right up front that if the diet does not work out for you, you are agreeable to adjustments. You already know that this diet will improve your health. She just has to see it.
And keep your fruit area clean. Be quick to do something proactive if fruit flies show up. Say nothing negative about her diet...no matter how hard that may be.
If mom shows interest later, if she has diabetes or high blood pressure, or constant heartburn, gently introduce her to the positive aspects of HCRV. Stay very positive.
Permalink Reply by Casey on April 25, 2012 at 1:13pm "Tell her that if you become ill due to this diet, you will go to the doctor with her and agree to come off the diet."
Whoa, I gotta argue that one. You will almost certainly get ill on this diet a few weeks in due to detoxification. You'll feel like you have the worse flu of your life, fever, migraine, extreme lethargy, possibly other symptoms for 2-3 days.... THE WORST THING YOU CAN DO IN THAT TIME IS CHANGE YOUR DIET BACK OR SEE A DOCTOR OR TAKE ANY MEDICINE!!! Stick with it - drink lots of water and eat a little fruit if anything and rest a lot, and you will feel the best you have in years when it passes. :)
Permalink Reply by Kenny F on April 25, 2012 at 5:09am This is not an easy thing to do and everybody is different so there is no one way to go about it.
Your mother just cares about you and believe she is doing the right thing.
For me vegan was an ethical choice and I told my family that, and that consuming any animal product was out of the question.
So they humored me and respected my decisions, plus they didn’t want to hear me tell them they are taking a life just so they can go yum.
As for eating a raw vegan diet and to tell them I eat mostly fruits and throw in a big pile of greens everyday… this is much easier to keep to myself.
In the end the result are that I’m fit and they are not, so it’s hard for them argue that.
Permalink Reply by Micah Gibson on April 25, 2012 at 6:10am I had a similiar experience today. I thought my mom was going to be supportive of me trying to get healthy and eat better, but her tune changed a bit today, and was throwing all kinds of smart remarks and insults at me, and even told me I was heading towards a life of schizophrenia, sigh. I don't think it even has anything to do with me. I think our family and friends, and people in general can have an "attack mode" reaction to this lifestyle because it's out of their comfort zone, it's something they are used to, and this world doesn't want you to get out of the circle, they try to pull you back in when you do the right thing, or do something different. I don't mind all the questions about, where do you get your protein, vitamin b12, etc etc, infact I'll be thankful for those types of questions and take it as a time to educate someone and inform them, questions are a good thing, as long as you ask them in the right way, with an intent to learn. My mom is so skeptical of food being able to help with things like depression or anything else, to her there is a pill for everything. So in other words, nothing you eat can help with depression, but here, eat this pill! facepalm
It's hard when the most backlash comes from your family, I think the best thing to do, is keep doing your own thing, and let the results speak for themselves, and I think that alone will bring them closer and more comforatable with it, let them see how well your doing =)
Permalink Reply by Andrew Keyes on April 25, 2012 at 6:21am
Permalink Reply by melonhead on April 25, 2012 at 6:22am One of the things that helped me with my RN mother was to let her know that being HCRV, I am more aware of my nutritional intake every day than I ever was. I think sometimes non-raw eaters think that, especially HCRV, that we just saw this idea on the internet and thought it might be fun. My mom wondered why the heck I was aiming for 2,500 calories every day, then I'm sure was a little bummed out that I've lost a lot of weight that never seemed to budge. When she understood how closely I was monitoring my intake, as well as having seen me overcome PCOS on raw, she can't say much. However, when I go to her house lo, these last 3 years, I have felt a little vibe coming from her that I wasn't going to partake of their hospitality and eat what they provided. I completely blew it off, realizing that her problem is not mine ( the problem doesn't have my name on it, as she is fond of saying:) and now, when I make my food, she just knows I don't need 3 hours to make a meal that's going to last ten-twenty minutes, that I just need a few minutes to make my meal. Then, as we all sit down to eat, I purposely eat without drawing attention to out different plates to make the point that it is just food and it's the sitting down together that is important, not whether we agree with each other's food choices. It has worked as no one says much these days! Hope this helped!
Permalink Reply by Chase Trrellert on April 25, 2012 at 2:37pm Be one with the lifestyle so she knows you are serious, and be extra joyous when you are around her.. You will probably be that way most of the time anyways depending on what you are detoxing. Give her a completely unemotional response when she whines at you to eat something else. It is as if she is asking you to add something completely unnecessary to your life.. which it is!
My family thought i was nuts oh sorry they still do. They make fun of me ALOT as do my friends but it IS me so they accept it pretty quick.
Remember too she is doing this out of love and her conditioned ideas of a proper diet over years and years! If you had to deprogram yourself like i did, how much more so would someone have to who is that much older!
I hope this applies, i have not read any other responses
Best wishes on your journey my friend
Permalink Reply by Holly Berry on April 26, 2012 at 6:29am I feel pretty lucky, everyone has been pretty nice to me about it. (I moved out though before I transitioned), my mom has been so supportive, as well as friends (though not to say they didn't think it was extreme, because they did) but they are seeing how it makes me feel and how I look... So that's all that matters. :)
Good luck!
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