Excellent article, thank you!
Although, I don't think this means you can eat UNLIMITED carbs while trying to burn fat. A high carb diet helps, but you don't want to eat so many carbs that you fill up your glycogen stores, correct?
How can you calculate how many calories from carbs you can eat before you fill up your stores? Anyone know?
The article basically says that once your glycogen is full, you will burn additional carbs via thermogenesis and WILL NOT store as fat.
Yea this is where my confusion comes in because the rate at which thermogensis occurs does not necessarily keep up with the amout of carbs consumed. If you eat too many carbs after your stores are filled, thermogenesis will take care of some of the extra, but if there is too many it won't be able to burn them all off and some carbs will be stored as fat.
That's why I'm trying to only fill up my stores and then that's it because I'm looking for the fastest way to burn up this extra fat while still stay high carb, low fat raw :)
But, triglycerides levels can rise from fructose, suggesting some are being converted to triglycerides and stored as fat. But, as usual, the devil is in the details and whether or not they are significant.
Thanks Matt, I just discovered Josh this morning! He's the best.
Thermogenesis is the reason why some people say eat more protein than carbs because it takes up to 30% of the protein cals to metabolize, while only 10-12% for carbs, and only 3% for fat. So if we are just comparing carbs to fat, we see the benefit. But, since we eat 50% or more cals than most people, thermogenesis can't explain most of the slimming effect on us. There must be other factors.
Yea I actually just read that not even two seconds ago since I was trying to find out more on the subject. The author of the article was saying lean meats are a lot better to burn fat in terms of the thermic effect of foods since they have the highest rate of thermogenesis, with carbs being second best and fat being the worst.
So yea there has to be another reason why.
I'm just wondering why I can't just follow 811, but eat the traditional amount of calories for weight loss and then step up the calories once I'm at a healthy weight. This makes the most logical sense for me, but if someone would be helpful enough to show this to be wrong I will gladly change it up :)
a good way to think of it is when you mix oil and water (they don't mix) and eventually the oil gets displaced when the water over fills the vessel .
What would be the water in the case of this analogy though? The oil (fat) is in my body now, but what is going to cause that fat to get burned off? Of course exercise will do this, but how does carbs come into play while burning fat? Carbs should be consumed for fuel obviously, but does it somehow aid in burning the fat as well other than giving energy to train?
Thanks for the responses guys, I'm just trying to get a grasp on this. :)
heat i'd think and water is water and fat is fat. fiber carries- is something that holds water together . that is why we don't process stuff to keep the natural fibre carb(sugar) stuff together to help not get insulin spiking and the avoidance of fats to make it easy to deliever and pick out.
I like Harley don't really exercise/workout sure i live hard and have fun , dance skate and work on land etc. but just for the same reason i could not be a DJ (playing stuff for other people over and over) i could not use that equipment (i have before for fun just to do reps on every machine but bulking up is also not my thing, i want to stay quick with long term endurance and have pop). i like to keep it fresh and practical , embettering the earth and my chances on it.
i have picked up 20 pounds in muscle since doing 811 10 months ago but not with intention.
Ok, thanks bro :D
I'm just trying to get this fat of me asap since summer is coming up and I wanna be lean lol I still got a couple months so that's good, but the faster, the better haha