Hi guys,
I have been trying to go 100% 811 for about 6 months now and I get really frustrated about the fact that I cannot hold it more than one week at a time. In fact so frustrated now so I really contemplate going back to cooked vegan.
So I am really trying to dig into the causes for this.
I am 174 cm and weigh 75 kg (I have gainged 8 kg from my weekly cooked food binges).
I try to eat 4000 cals a day, but I usually end up eating around 3300.
I eat a lot of medjool dates
I do 75 min astanga yoga everyday, bike 5-10 K everyday and do high cardio 3 times a week.
I drink 3-4+ L every day.
I sleep 9-12 hours every night
I take b12 drops and vitD pills (I live in Denmark)
I eat 75-150 gr of greens a day (way to little??)
On next thursday I am getting my blodwork done to see if I have any deficiencies.
Do you guys think it is the calories? I mean I do not really exersize that much. Do I need more greens, more sun, more exersize?
I am really motivated and therefore it hurts everytime I have a set back. My mom started making vegan food and it really tempts me. Can I ever get to the point where it does not tempt me? Because to be honest, I cannot help thinking that I am just to weak or lack selfdiscipline to stick to this. So if there will be just the tiniest temptation I will not be able to stay away from it.
Every advice or thought you have will be appreciated A LOT, thank you :)
Permalink Reply by cecilie malene on Oh I need to add, that I am stressed, but mostly due to this lifestyle, all the planning of food and that I drink bottled juice everyday in order to get enough cals. question is if I am really not doing anything good for my self by going back and forth and put my self and my body through the stress. Would it be better just to go back to a Highcarbvegan diet?
Permalink Reply by Eli on Just get used to getting physically FULL on fruit. So full you want to fall over four times a day. It's a different feeling than being full on cooked food.. believe me. Get high quality fruit or you will be miserable... start to eat more frequently rather than being physically hungry before every meal.
You don't want under-ripe bananas, rotten hard mangoes, sour pineapple, soggy oranges, bland apples, or hard tasteless melons. Learn how to pick them out right. For now, don't care whether they're organic or not. Just find the ones that taste the best for you. Quantity AND Quality.
And yeah, eat more greens than that. I get about 2-3 heads of lettuce in a single meal. Don't even cut them up, I just chomp them down as they are. After a week or so when your tastbuds change up a bit it will even start tasting sweet. Make sure they're just how you like them.
Start chillin' a bit more too, get at least 20 minutes of your day to RELAX and BREATHE.
Permalink Reply by Sherry Panov on Thanks Eli! That was great advice! I am going to do this!
Permalink Reply by cecilie malene on I am in fact hardly ever hungry. Maybe once a month I feel hunger?
So I am really full but I always feel like I could eat cooked food.
I am also wondering if it is the stress related to this diet that makes it difficult for me. Just planning my day tomorrow almost makes me break down because I need to get room for eating enough and I just cant have it in my head. And I cannot avoid drinking bottled and pasteirized orange juice I simply do not have time to make my own
Permalink Reply by Jon Fergus on I drink bottled orange juice like it's going out of style ;) It's less optimal than freshly squeezed, for sure... but hey, it's pretty darn good stuff. That makes me not 100% raw, but I don't stress over it. Just, if you're gonna get bottled OJ, make sure it's 'not from concentrate'.
The way you describe the planning and stress makes me think that this is indeed the area to work on. The other details of your daily routine seem pretty good. Stressing/thinking about food all the time need not be a part of this lifestyle. In fact, many of us rave about how free we are of food now. I don't feel the need to plan or anything... cause all I do is buy a giant supply of bananas, dates and whatnot for the week and then eat them... no need for cooking or prep. or anything. If you can shift your mentality to think about food only when you need to - i.e. when you're going to the grocery store, and when your hungry - you'll likely find your stress significantly reduced. This might take a little getting used to, but once it kicks in, you're mind will be free for so much else :)
I would also second Eli's note that your activity level may require a bit more in terms of carb cals. So that's something you could play around with and tweak. Maybe try hitting that 4000 mark for a week and see how it compares to how you've been doing.
In any case, I still think you're well on your way and totally applaud your efforts! :D
Permalink Reply by Eli on Cecilie, you missed my main point. How is the quality of fruit where you live? The rest don't really play in as much here. Not much work of a detective! ;)
You are satiated and nourished with more nutrients when your fruit is sugary sweet, ripe, luscious, and fresh. That's when you don't want any cooked food.. when you get that "MMMMM........" with every bite! That's when you WANT more of it!!!!
Permalink Reply by cecilie malene on Oh sorry.
The quality sucks :) Really. I only got that when I was in thailand. So yeah here en DK it is more of like pushing my self to eat instead of really wanting to
Permalink Reply by Eli on Yeah.. that's an issue. Fruit doesn't have as many nutrients when it's not sweet.. you can't be satiated without them. Thailand isn't the only place in the world with great quality fruit, here in US it's also great if you look in the right places.
For now I'd say work on picking out the best quality/variety you can. The better you will do. It's hard not to be miserable in the beginning eating bland/unripe fruit.
Permalink Reply by cecilie malene on Yeah makes sense. I eat a lot of dates, though, what about them?
Atm I eat dates, melon, organic spinach, kale, lettuce and tomatoes, botled OJ and frosen berries. Some of the melons are pretty good, some bland. I am going to chanthaburi in 10 days yaaay, so good fruit there. And when I get home berries, cherries and other good local fruits and greens will start to come.
Permalink Reply by Lorra Fae on Be wary of the bottled OJ! read about it here: http://www.cracked.com/article_19433_the-6-most-horrifying-lies-foo...
If yer gonna get bottle juice make SURE it's REAL juice.
Permalink Reply by Jon Fergus on Thanks for the link Lorra. I'll do some more in-depth research into the OJ companies I've been buying from... if I find anything fishy I'll be sure to post a discussion on it.
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