I came to understand that all the problems seem to come from undercarbing. All the cravings and low energy and soreness. It was a big step up finally realizing this.
However i cant seem to go over the 3000-3200 range, no matter how much i try.
This is what i eat on a regular day:
breakfast: 20 tangerines (WAY more that i would want to eat naturally, that would be around 10, so i end up feeling a little bloated afterwards and not feeling 100%)
lunch: 10-12 bananas. I go naturally to 6-8, then shove some more without enjoying it.
afternoon: some dates (around 150-200g) and maybe a smoothie (some days i have to force it cause by this point i just cant tolerate any more sweets)
dinner: It's about 500/700g of tender lettuces, with the occasional spinach or arugula. Usually some cherry tomatoes on the side, maybe an avocado, maybe some nuts n seeds, something that would make the massive amount of greens go down, while somewhat enjoying it. No way i want to taste sweets by this point.
usually 3000 is ok if i just lightweight my way through life, but if i want to get some exercise in, its not enough.
maybe i just need a little help, maybe some words of advice, any would be welcome.
thanks a lot!
ps:i cant get more dates, as i cant afford them. theyre quite expensive here in Argentina. If i ate a kg a day id be spending around a minimum wage on dates (if you know some that ship at a relatively affordable price id be really thankful for that)
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Luciano, how long have you been eating this way?
Can you get any good mangoes or papayas? They are both high in cals. I love honeydews and they have around 480 cals. If you can get them they go good first thing in the morning followed by citrus, you wouldn't have to eat so many tangerines and still get some more cals.
Sometimes I get some help with calories with some not-so-optimal foods like raisins and organic grape juice - both easy to get and keep and loaded with cals but, again, not raw.
Permalink Reply by Luciano Armani on September 15, 2012 at 12:31pm September is my 6th month in. I've upped the cals slowly from a measly 1500 at the start to the current 3000, but ive hit a roadblock here i can't seem to go over.
thing is we dont have much variety here... maybe i can get my hands on some mangoes every now and then, but its too expensive to use as a staple (1kg of mangoes is as expensive as 4kg of bananas here)
it will get better when late spring/summer comes thou =).
btw i've taken the juice train a few times, but its too much sugar too fast, and i feel the bloodsugar rollercoaster.
I know the feeling though, we're heading into fall winter and after having a glorious spring and summer filled with deliciousness, it's a little hard to face. A few months and the US citrus will make it's way to me...
Permalink Reply by Hamish Creighton on September 15, 2012 at 1:07pm Get a blender. Blend 10-15 bananas and you have heaps of energy rich/ high calorie good stuff.
Permalink Reply by Luciano Armani on September 15, 2012 at 1:16pm i do have a blender, thing is downing 10 more bananas at this point is not as easy as it sounds...
you cant imagine how confusing it is, cause if i listened to my body i'd still be eating 6 bananas and a few tangerines. When do you stop pushing stuff in?
It does get easier in time, in my experience. At first I could only eat 2 bananas. I have eaten 10 at a time but 7-8 is more my pace. It is confusing to feed yourself without feeling hungry enough to eat 10 bananas. But most of us have lived our whole lives ignoring our real signs of hunger & satiation and I think it takes a while for our bodies and minds to adjust to eating this way.
Some folks like to graze a bit, too, and not just eat a few large meals, but many small meals throughout the day.
Do you get a good liter of water in first thing in the morning. That may help.
Permalink Reply by Luciano Armani on September 15, 2012 at 1:56pm Well i need to eat more carbs, but my digestive system doesn't like the idea of more food coming in. So you got to eat a little bit more everytime to get used to it?
am i on the right track here?
What makes you say that you need to eat more carbs? Is your weight dropping dramatically? Are you participating in major endurance events? You can always eat more bananas and fresh dates, especially dates if you are experiencing a problem with undue weight loss.
Permalink Reply by Luciano Armani on September 16, 2012 at 5:08am Cause i crave eating things i shouldnt be eating, like cooked carbs and fats. Cause my recovery rates after workouts are unacceptably low.
sorry but it's not that easy for me to just "shove 10 more bananas in there".
Could be low sodium. That will slow recovery down immensely. Will also cause you to crave cooked carbs because cook carbs are usually salted.
Permalink Reply by Luciano Armani on September 24, 2012 at 12:52am You might have a point there. However ive been struggling with that, as many tomatoes and celery i have i never go over 200-400mg of sodium (on a good day!). Are there any other good sources?
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