getting fat!!!

hey everybody :)

i consulted with you guys a few times in the past and you really helped me out.
hope you'll be able to help this time as well.

i started 811 about 7 months ago.
i had a few bad days in those months but overall i'm doing great at keeping my diet.
in the last 2 month i eat mostly 90-5-5 and didn't touch anything that is not hcrv.
b-u-t, i started to gain weight!
i want to point out that although i have about 20 kilos to lose, it's not the main reason why i'm doing 80-10-10.
i believe it with all my heart, and recieved great benefits.
i don't weight myself anymore, but i can see from my clothes that i gained about 10 kilos. (not water, not muscle, fat.)
i eat more than 3000 k a day, and i'm not sure what i'm doing wrong or what i should do now.
i helped creating a big 811 community in my country, and i can't stop thinking of what a bad example i am.
it's also very difficult for me to run (my biggest love!) with all the excess weight.

please help!

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Permalink Reply by dangermouse on May 24, 2012 at 4:41am

I really think you should try drinking more water as well. I try for at least 4 L/day, NOT including what goes into smoothies. I really notice a difference in my digestion and energy when I drink looots of water. I can't find the discussion at the moment, but I remember someone was saying that upping their water intake didn't do much for them and someone else said they thought the same thing until they dramatically increased it. Then it was magic.

I agree with Karen as well that you should make sure you're getting enough greens. You need those minerals!

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Permalink Reply by Shy Precious on May 24, 2012 at 11:07pm

ok.

water+greens will increase!

hope it will help

thanks so much!

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Permalink Reply by Kirra Mangoloid Adams on May 24, 2012 at 8:26am

I would first suggest upping the water intake; your intake is below even the SAD recommendation. Aim for a minimum of 2.5 L, with 3-4 L being the ideal range. Go drink a liter right now!

Also, I don't know what your status is on greens, but it seems that every time somebody is having a problem on 811, it is because of low amounts of water get and/or greens - I had problems with both before. Good on you for getting the sleep, though. That's the final recommendation I would make, but you seem to have that covered. (I'll admit that I still have problems turning in early!)

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Permalink Reply by Shy Precious on May 24, 2012 at 11:11pm

i had problem with the sleeping early at the begining as well,

but after i made myself do it a few times, i can't go to sleep late.

i will increase water+greens

thanks :)

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Permalink Reply by DURIANRIDER on May 24, 2012 at 11:17pm

If you put OMG + OMFG!!!! next to the getting fat!!! title you will get quicker results for sure. ;)

If anyone can think of a long term fruit eater that doesnt look like they are a fruit eater, let me know.

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Permalink Reply by Shy Precious on May 25, 2012 at 12:23am

:0) sorry for that, had a few minutes of emotional chaos.

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Permalink Reply by Eli on May 25, 2012 at 9:24am

DON'T follow that advice for going on a juice fast.

You will regret it.

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Permalink Reply by Phillip Konn on May 25, 2012 at 10:09am

1-2 liters of water?? I drink that much when I wake up. Might want to shoot for a gallon per day.

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Permalink Reply by Shy Precious on May 25, 2012 at 10:15pm

i eat lots of watermelons, so i get plenty of water,

i pee clear for more than 14 times a day.

but i'll give it a try and we'll see :)

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Permalink Reply by apple@li on May 24, 2012 at 12:42am

Awwww, I feel for you...and I must say... I feel like high fruit cals requires lots of exercise... I'm sorry, that's how it was for me... If I didn't use up alllll those fruity carbs I would feel very 'weighed' down...Vegan...Fruit and veggies are optimal for sure though!!!! I love eating 'clean!!!'

I am not optimal person to ask though cuz I eat some cooked starches now, Dr. McDougall's Plan. I feel soooo good and lost weight. Not sure why, my cals are bout the same, just from raw fruit, veggies and starches (sweet taters), instead of 100% raw fruits and greens.... I am still technically 801010 :)

I love all raw. And soooo wanna be a raw girly.... but I felt I was not exercising enough to burn up all the fruit sugar. I still feel carbs are what ya need, just switched my sources a lil bit... I think fruit is optimum for the super duper, extreme, fit exercisers, like Durian Rider, Freelee, Terri, Megan, Kristina, etc. :) sorry, I know I'm forgetting peeps, sorry. But it really seems the thriver's are moving a lot.... I know, I'm just lazy, and like the easy way, for now...I am still super hyper, but I don't run for miles!!! Unless its a marathon, once a year.... lol :)

Btw I am only 5'2" , 32 yrs. old, was around 130's, and now low 120's, jog, walk, bike, kayak, just leisurely for fun...nothing extreme. I really did lose 10 lbs, without try, restricting, or massive amounts of exercise... I don't reach 3000 cals though I am round a 2000 cal gal. :) Haven't had and 'fats' for eva.. even while I was lfrv, but I have definitely leaned out more, with the addition of starches, maybe they hit the spot for me, and finally satisfied me??? Still have my lil tum~tum, something I have never lost :( But I still have hope...maybe in the future??? :)

Hope this was ok to say on here???? I know DR and Freelee say carbs from cooked aren't optimal, but as long as its high carb, low fat wholesome foods, go for it! Sorry, this prob didn't even help... just giving you my experience :)

I truly hope you figure it out and find what works for you...

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Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on May 24, 2012 at 1:56am

Sorry, no. This is a common misconception among people - that DR, freelee, etc, are "super duper trainers/exercisers" and you can only not gain fat on this diet if you train constantly.

Have you ever seen videos with DR explaining his training regimen? He barely trains. He wins or is in top 10 in every running race he enters yet he sits on his ass recording youtube videos. Check out his muscles - he is ripped but he doesn't spend every day in the gym. Freelee doesn't spend 3 hours a day hardcore training. If I could estimate, I would say that OP probably "exercises" about as much as either of them, or MORE. Heck, I eat close to 4000 kcals daily and I exercise about an hour twice a week and haven't had an ounce of weight gain.

Even if this WERE true, that you somehow needed to exercise all day to not lose weight, first of all this diet would not have as many followers because many people have full-time jobs and cannot get out that much, and second, cooked carbs would not solve the problem; if anything, they would make the problem worse. You're not going to gain FAT from eating "too many" fruity carbs unless you're chomping like 8,000 a day and sitting on your ass doing absolutely nothing.

So, no, promoting cooked foods (for anyone who is not a "super-duper-fit person that exercises all the time like oh yeah almost NONE of our "celebrities"" ) is not really OK on here, but I understand where you are coming from and this is a common misconception.