I know in the depths of my hear that 811 is whats right for me. I feel best when I eat this way and want to continue. I went 811 about a month ago and for the first 2 weeks I ate 100% and felt fantastic! My face got noticeably better and I felt happier and more energized. I had a little slip up 2 weeks ago when I went to visit my family and since then I have not been able to stay 100%. I got for a day or 2 fully 811 and then my head starts messing with me. I start wondering if this is right for me and "maybe a little bit of rice or tofu wouldnt kill me" etc. etc. I sound like my mother when that happens! Then I eat the damn food and feel like ****. Or at least not as good as when I eat juicy fruit. Another thing that happens is that when I'm eating fruit I start to feel an aversion to it. Basically, when I'm eating raw I'm wanting to eat cooked and when I eat something cooked I crave my fruit sooo much and wish I hadnt eaten the cooked food. I know that the latter is my true feeling. Why the hell would I want to eat something that makes me tired and lethargic? And, when I eat cooked its never animal products or fat. Its sweet potatoes, rice, tofu. This is food that these days most consider "healthy" but it makes me feel like s***.
I need some inspiration. Please tell me your experience, offer advice and let me know how long you've been doing this. I need you now dear friends, I want to do this but am getting discouraged. This back and forth action is wearing me out. Thank you for your wonderful support.
Permalink Reply by Steffi Ann on I know how it feels to have such people around you. I have them all the time. I have to listen to the „fruit sugar is unhealthy“, „you're too thin“, „you have an eating disorder“, blablabla. And I'm getting that from overweight, flabby people. One even has cancer, another one arthritis!!! The latter is so bad, she can't walk to the supermarket and doesn't even make an effort anymore. I always take her poor dog for a run when I'm there - little sweetheart doesn't know anything apart from the backyard. Me on the other side (you know, the unhealthy girl with the eating disorder), I just recently had my blood tested, and my doc nearly fell of his chair because the results were so good!
To get to your point: I myself crave cooked foods some times and I do add some steamed rice and veggies to my diet, just to get the calories up. I'm from Germany, and it's quite difficult to get fresh ripe fruit throughout the year. So, in winter I eat more rice, in summer far less, close to none at all. And in my eyes, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that. Stay away from fat and salt, add some fruit to it - wonderful! But if it doesn't make you feel good, commit to one month fruit only, and see where it takes you. Don't obsess about the future and whether or not you can stick to this lifestyle. Take it day by day.
Lots of love, xox
Steffi
Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on Hey Steffi its so great that you had such great blood test results! I love hearing about the well being of fellow fruities! How do you feel after you eat some cooked foods? I always feel like I'm not satiated and very lethargic. Thank you for your great advice! I'm going to commit to a one month challenge and take it one day at a time!
Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on I've started to really believe that I am addicted. I feel like I have withdrawls or something. I agree with what you are saying completely. I no longer crave junk foods because I havent eaten them in a while. Now my cravings are for cooked "health" foods. I bet I just need to buckle down and do this thing for an extended period of time in order to get rid of the cravings
Permalink Reply by fruitsandnumbers on I've started to really believe that I am addicted.
exactly! welcome to cooked food addicts anonymous! admitting to your addictions is the first step towards conquering them.
i was also addicted just a few months ago, and now i am completely free of all my addictions! thanks to all of the wonderful people in this site who have helped me so much and especially thanks to Lyanne (aka La Banane) for her partnership.
do this thing for an extended period of time in order to get rid of the cravings
that's it! stopping consuming the thing you're addicted to and the addiction will go away. it's as simple as that!
love, taneli <3
Permalink Reply by Stephanie McClennon on ah, but aren't cooked foods junk foods as well, if they make you feel like trash after eating them?
Permalink Reply by Greenmama on Yes... but switching from Flamin' Hot Cheetos and french onion dip to beans and rice is a definite improvement! (That's been my switch.)
This is exactly what I was going to say. It will take time for your body to become used to a new food style. In the meantime. I've been where you are and know what a see saw it is. But eventually your fruit side will gain the upper side because it is the RIGHT SIDE.
A few things that helped during my time in this phase:
having tons of fruit available everywhere, all my favorites, ready to eat.
Having 10 bananas in one meal makes it pretty difficult to eat anything else, in my opinion.
Eat fruit first, keep doing that, as much as you can.
Stay well hydrated, I still get irritable and thus weak feelings when I haven't drunk enough water, and if you eat enough fruit this will happen so much less, but still drink lots.
I found that eating anything with salt or flavor of any kind (like soy sauce etc) created an extremely slippery slope, I would immediately and very strongly want more salt, thus cooked foods. If you are eating sweet potato or rice make sure it is plain with no seasonings. (maybe you are already doing this?). For a while I would eat rice with corn or potatoes with corn, I could eat them this way without any other flavorings. I will still do this occasionally when low on fruit and once in a while on a cold day I want something warm. But even when I'm eating it I'm already thinking fruit would be better.
Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on Yes! I seem to know that the fruit side is the right side intellectually and my body feels better but old habits and things others around me say tend to throw me off. Thank you for the tips! THe hydration thing is so key I think. I notice that I dont drink as much water as I probably should. Its so interesting how addictive things like salt are! I had a little bit of soy sauce last night and really hated the taste. I usually do the rice and potatoes without any seasonings. I kind of like them plain.
Permalink Reply by PK on Think of some foods as being addicting. If you are being driven to the point of crazy to eat something, that might mean you are addicted to that thing.
The best way to break an addiction is to just stop no matter how strong the drive. Usually within about 3 days or so, the drive to get that thing will stop.
You can (re) read our banan wagon tour for tips and tricks to stay on the diet, and for inspiration. I am not sure what your goals are, but if it is to lose weight, or increase muscle mass, get fitter, you will find the inspiration you are looking for.
I quote in regards to our not promoting transition and or cheating:
The case against transitioning:
If one is doing two or more diets, one is only doing a mix and will not have optimal results. The same conditions, diseases, and cravings will keep coming up again and again and never get resolved.
One cannot ride two horses with one bum:)
Mixing a high fat diet and a high fruit diet can cause problems like Type 2 Diabetes, candida, and chronic fatigue syndrome, and weight gain.
Fruits digest fast. Animal products, fats, digest slowly as well as cruciferous veggies like broccoli and root veggies like carrots in some people.
Eating fruit on top of slow digesting food can cause the fruit to ferment leading to digestive discomfort and or pain, gas, bloating, and other problems like brain fog.
CHEAT DAYS = SICK DAYS!
Cheating with cooked food, and even steamed vegetables for some people, can cause digestive upsets, detox symptoms, and a return of previous conditions.
Of course everyone is different, but what many members who have tried to transition have experienced is that the longer they eat raw, the cleaner their bodies get.
What will happen is that their bodies will react violently when they cheat with cooked food. Symptoms may include upset stomach, vomiting, constipation, headache, acne, and other detox symptoms. The best way to describe it is sudden onset of flu like symptoms which may last 1-3 days.
Here is another inspirational blog post by our own Megan Elizabeth McDonell:
http://meganelizabeth.com/2012/03/my-top-3-ways-to-avoid-giving-in-...
Don't give up. You can do it.
Peace, PK
Permalink Reply by Viktoriya on Thanks for the advice. I am in no way promoting transitioning or cheating. I want to be 100% but am struggling with it. Its so interesting what it says about how the body reacts violently with cooked food. I've been feeling that for sure!
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