Hey everyone! So for the past 3 days I have been feeling extremely sick to my stomach and have no appetite. I was feeling absolutely AWESOME, and then I got up at 3:30AM one morning to workout with my mom before work. And ever since that day, waking up early (I got about 6 hours of sleep) I have felt awful! And that was 3 days ago. I have since been sleeping a ton, but I still feel crappy! :( I have absolutely NO appetite, and whenever I do eat, I feel sick afterwards. I felt so nauseous that I had some boiled potatoes which helped soothe my stomach, even though I hated having to eat them. I couldn't stomach putting anything sweet and cold in my body. Previously, I was working out twice a day, and I felt invincible! But now, I feel like I'm either going to puke or faint whenever I do workout. I've been HCRV for about 2 1/2 months. I've been drinking a ton of water too, but nothing seems to be helping. For the past 3 weeks, I haven't been able to stomach greens either, which is incredibly weird for me! I was eating about a lb of spinach per day, and loving it! I don't know what changed, but I can't imagine eating any greens right now, where before I used to crave them. I feel like I just can't digest anything. That's the only way I can explain it, if that makes any sense. It feels like before I was diagnosed with Adrenal Exhaustion and I would always feel sick after whatever I ate, which worries me because I had been feeling so fantastic on this lifestyle. I keep waiting for it to pass, but it just doesn't seem to be. I used to have a ravenous appetite, (4,000 calories a day) but now I can barely eat 4 bananas at a time. :( I was just hoping someone else had some wisdom and/or advice to give! I would really, really appreciate it! I miss feeling invincible on this lifestyle, because I KNOW this is the optimum way to live! :) If you stuck with me through this huge, long post, then I commend you! lol I appreciate any feedback you all have to give! :)
Live In Joy,
Kiwi
Permalink Reply by Ines Caldas on maybe you're comming down with flu...or something like that - virus can do that!
Permalink Reply by PK on @Kiwi,
Well, sorry about your symptoms. I suspect you may be in a wave of detox. Some people can have occasional detox for a few months. It can take up to two years for a complete over all of the body for some people.
During a detox crises, you may need more rest and or sleep. Many of our members need anywhere from 8-12 hours. In the tropics, primates might sleep 12 hours a night plus an afternoon rest. So give yourself more sleep time, and even rest time such as watching tv might be better than nothing.
Do not push your body in the beginning with over training. Also, give your body at least one day a week for rest, repairs, and rebuild of tissues. That means no training or workouts.
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Now, on to dietary matters. As your body gets more clean, you are going to become more senstive to toxic foods. Our members do best on raw fruits and leafy lettuce greens like romaine lettuce. Spinach actually falls under the cruciferous veggie category, and many of our members cannot eat them and get symptoms such as sour stomach, stomach pains, diarrhea, constipation, gas, bloating, and pain from these vegetables, and or slowed digestion which makes it difficult to eat enough calories during the day.
Cruciferous veggies All are disqualified as optimal or even appropriate due to high cellulose content. Our bodies have limited ability to access the nutrients encased in the cellulose structure, so most of what we eat of them must only be eliminated from the body, which unnecessarily taxes our eliminative processes. These vegetables also contain irritating and indigestible oxalic acid and are bland or unpleasant to eat in their raw state. The exception in this category is young or baby spinach, which has what most people describe as a pleasant flavor and is relatively easy to digest in moderate quantities since its oxalic acid content is low at this point in its growth.
For more information on naughty and nice fruits and veggies, consult this list:
http://rawschool.com/best-raw-foods/
And for optimum results, (re)read our banana wagon tour:
http://www.30bananasaday.com/profiles/blogs/30bad-banana-wagon-tour
In the meantime, until digestion clears up, try to do a fruit island of your favorite ripe fruit for the next 3-10 days as needed.
Then resume a diet of low fat raw ripe fruits and up to 2 pounds of leafy lettuces a day.
BTW, make sure fruit is ripe too:
http://www.30bananasaday.com/forum/topics/how-does-ripe-fruit-look-...
Feel Better Soon and Peace, PK
BTW, with your adrenal fatigue symptoms, that leaves me suspect that you may have a grain/wheat/gluten sensitivity. Try to avoid cheating with grain products.
Permalink Reply by PK on @Esra,
That is an individual decision you will have to make by experimenting. Some of our members do ok with it and some do not.
Like many members though, you may do ok with it for a while only to have a bad reaction to it a few months down the road.
Because of a bum kidney, I personally cannot eat it as it causes me pain, possibly because of the oxalate content.
Peace, PK
Permalink Reply by Kiwi Lynn on Thank you for the replies! I really appreciate your in-depth response, PK! I had no idea spinach fell under the cruciferous veggie category. I will just try to wait it out and hope it gets better. I'm going to take these symptoms as a good sign that I'm detoxing and my body is healing. Earlier this year (before I found 801010) I was put on birth control to try and get my menstrual cycle working again. (I hadn't had one for almost 3 years) They didn't want to find the actual cause of the problem, they just wanted my period to start again. So I began on birth control and I was incredibly ill. I had no appetite, queasy, was vomiting, and became extremely dehydrated, so I stopped taking it after 10 days. However, the queasy/no appetite feels very reminiscent of when I was on the birth control. Is there any way that my hormones could be somehow be normalizing? I'm taking an adrenal support supplement prescribed by my naturopath (who actually wanted to figure out the root of the issue, unlike the allopathic doctors lol) do you think that maybe now my adrenal support is unnecessary, and now my adrenals are on overdrive and I'm getting TOO many hormones? It all just feels so familiar from when I was on the birth control. I would be interested in your input! Thanks! :)
Permalink Reply by Peter Csere on I'm taking an adrenal support supplement prescribed by my naturopath (who actually wanted to figure out the root of the issue, unlike the allopathic doctors lol)
How can you be so sure that's what your naturopath wanted to do? Your allopathic doctors tried to eliminate a symptom (no period) with a pill (birth control.) Your naturopath wanted to eliminate a symptom (out of whack hormones) with a pill (adrenal support supplement.) How is this different? Oh, I see - you consider the "out of whack hormones" to be the cause rather than yet another symptom. Symptoms can create symptoms. Just because you've gone back one level on the symptom tree doesn't mean you've found the root cause and doesn't mean the naturopath is treating the root cause. All causes are rooted in lifestyle, diet, environment etc. and anyone who gives you a pill to fix a "cause" is often just treating a symptom.
So, I would recommend getting the heck off your bovine adrenal extract (just kidding, although I certainly hope the adrenal support supplement you're taking is at least vegan.) People have died from taking that stuff. It's just an adrenal stimulant.
Permalink Reply by Kiwi Lynn on Well, apart from the fact that she said she wanted to find the root of the cause? lol My naturopath performed test that proved the adrenal exhaustion (low blood pressure, pupil dilation, blood tests which also indicated hypothyroidism) This diagnosis explained all of the symptoms I was experiencing. I feel much better when I take the adrenal supplement, then when I stop taking it. The supplement itself IS vegan, and a combination of herbs that aid in helping the adrenals. She never told me to just take the pill and everything would be 100%, she also focused on all other areas of my life including exercise, sleep, and diet. I was already vegan, but she had me eliminate soy, among other foods, which helped greatly. It was finding 80/10/10 which actually really jump started my recovery. However, I've experimented by not taking the adrenal support, but I'm incredibly ill after I eat when I do. Over the months, I have greatly decreased my dosage, so I know that in time I will be off of it completely. :) I do appreciate the concern and your reply though, Peter!
Live In Joy,
Kiwi
Permalink Reply by Esra on Hi Kiwi, birth control detox can be really, really annoying! I know, because I have been off of them for a year now, and have gone through many rounds of crazy detox. My advice is really to just stick it through!
I don't think the adrenal support is necessary, it's best to just give your own body time to regulate your hormones, which might take a long time - try not to get discouraged :). Feel free to send me a message if you have any questions :).
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