If we have to cover up our greens with nuts, oils, or even just fruit-based sauces, should we really be eating them? Doesn't that merely mean we haven't eaten enough fruit calories for the day? It seems counter-intuitive to "force our greens in" and find ways to cover up the taste of them just so we can eat enough of them. If we do not have the desire to eat them, and I'm not talking about initially on this diet when we are used to all sorts of salts, spices, & other stimulants, I mean after our tastes have adjusted and we have no desire to mono greens on a certain day, why should we force ourselves? (Of course I'm not talking about eating no greens long-term, I'm talking about day-to-day)
What are your opinions?
Permalink Reply by Casey on I had this same thought. So now I'm pretty much fruitarian. Once in a while I feel like some greens, but not often.
And, I seem to be doing better with just fruit than when having a big salad every night. Zero feeling of "just eating this 'cause it's healthy", zero feeling of "I need salt or something to cover up the taste", much easier to eat plenty of calories, etc. Mono fruit days are FUN! I feel even more in tune with my body now.
Yesterday I ate a simple salad of lettuce, celery, cherry tomatoes, and red and yellow bell peppers. My breathing was affected by it - felt like I had light asthma afterwards or had been smoking....for a couple hours. Probably the nightshades but who knows.
So I think it's JUST FINE to forget the greens if you're not feelin' it.
Permalink Reply by Kimberry on I think the recommendation to eat a pound of greens a day is good for when you're starting out, because your body may not be able to tell you what it needs out of the choices your giving it since it had very different choices before. I think once you've been eating this way for a while, like years, you'll have a better understanding of what you need to eat based on cravings and how you feel.
Also, 10% or less of fat is more of a weekly or monthly guideline, so maybe greens could be also (probably closer to weekly though, I'd say).
Just my thoughts! :) I may be wrong.
Permalink Reply by brad on if i dont like the taste of greens and i dont want them i dont eat them i find em a little too high in fat for me so i rarely eat them if you eat enough fruit you get all your nutrience but maby there are some micronutrience for longevity or some crap in certain plants
Permalink Reply by dangermouse on Greens are too high in fat? I guess you never eat berries either, then. They've got a similar percentage of fat. You're missing out.
Permalink Reply by Yogaranka on I do remember Dr. Graham expressing his well founded concern regarding fruitarian endeavours. He said: he has seen no longtime healthy fruitarians (no green consumption).
I know it is only one person's opinion. There are plenty of people aiming for fruit only: Mango, Kveta, Nora, Anne, Fruity Jules, Maltron, and many more whose name I cannot remember. Some of these lovely folks look amazing, some look a bit too thin on their videos, pictures. They don't mind experimenting with their lifestyles. They are pioneers in this regard.
The idea however is, that if we eat a species specific diet, it does include tender young greens. Most importantly for their valuable fatty acids, that fruit have so little of, especially Omega 3's.
Perhaps what you are covering up with sauces, hiding its taste is too bitter or even tasteless for you, then choose some really tender varieties.
My favourite tender greens to munch-on with no sauces whatsoever: romaine lettuce, arugula, baby bok choy, celery sticks, baby spinach leaves. Sometimes I get lucky and find some heirloom lettuces from California, and boy, they are so tasty to have as snacks! I don't care for a medley of lettuces all at once, no salads for me.
I say find at least one kind of young green, and just taste it for what it is. Who knows, you might fall in love with it. Experiment.
Permalink Reply by IHaveALight - Chris on Excellent post. I have seen DG say this as well. I believe he says 2-4% of calories should come from greens. Can't remember if I read that in the book or not though. But I trust he knows what he's talking about in this regard. I should, I'm following his diet.
Also our taste buds adapt. The more greens you eat the more you will start to enjoy them.
Permalink Reply by dangermouse on Are you sure about that 33%? That's like 10 pounds of lettuce, dude.
Permalink Reply by Casey on I was eating what I thought was a "normal" amount of fruit, which was maybe 25-30% of what I eat in a day now, along with a lot of sprouted nuts through the day, and then having two HUGE salads midway and at the end of the day. That wasn't just greens, but also various vegetables. I would also often make a big juice mainly with greens, and a fruit to water it down somewhat. It wasn't at all 811, or with much guidance at all besides attempting to be raw vegan. At the time I was paranoid about too much fruit and already thinking I was eating a "lot", and felt like to be "healthy" I really need to focus on the greens and vegetables. It was pretty healthy compared to my previous diet, and it helped me a lot. But I feel that I'm doing better now. :)
Permalink Reply by Adbekunkus on 2-4% of calories coming from greens it's quite a bit of greens, since they don't have many calories... But i'm beeing flexible as you are... trying to learn how to listen to my body. Having salads 3 or 4 times a week.
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