I have a question for you all and I am looking forward to input because I know there are so many people around here at 30bad that are so well educated and experienced in health, natural hygene, raw veganism, etc.
So here it goes...
Is it normal, good, and even natural to eat so much and keep on eating until you're about to burst, just to prevent a cooked food binge? I know myself... coming from a background of anorexia and bulimia, that on this lifestyle, if I do not completely stuff myself until I feel like I am going to be sick, the temptations to eat cooked vegan foods are still out there (not talking about rice or sweet potatoes, talking about soy ice cream and other junk...) I know a lot of people here do not believe there is such a thing as over-eating on fruits, but I have noticed that some people do seem to think this is possible, like Chris Califano, whose views and input around the forums I always find real interesting, being one of them (unless I understood you wrong, Chris).
Durianrider, you often say that emotional eating doesn't exist, and that wanting to binge out on cooked foods just means you didn't get enough carbs... but is it good for someone to eat so much that they feel literally sick in their stomach from eating too much, just to prevent a cooked food binge?
I have been getting better and better on this lifestyle, but over the past year and a half, I have had plenty a set-back, I will do great, make sure I am always surrounded by a SEA of fresh raw fruits and lotttttts of medjool dates, I get my greens in, I exercise, drink filtered water like there is no tomorrow, I sleep as long as I can and without alarmclock (unless I have an early appointment that i can't miss), and go for as much outside time as I can. And still I get times where I just want to buy every single vegan cookie, ice cream and chips item in the store and eat it all alone in my home, DESPITE knowing how awful I will feel physically and mentally the next day(s). It is not like I am eating only 2000 calories and then wonder, gee, why did I just binge on potato chips?
It seems Durianrider and I will never see eye to eye on this, that anorexia and bulimia are psychological disorders and not just a cause of low carb intake, but that is fine, that is not really what this is about anyway.
I would just like to know if it is a good idea to really stuff yourself in order to prevent cooked food binges?
Before you assume that I have an anorexic stomach... this is not the case, I have thankfully been recovered from anorexia for years, from bulimia too, but I still have binge attacks, just not followed by purging any more :) thankfully. I can eat hormonal always eating teen boys under the table, I work in an all men environment and I can eat ALL of them under the table :P (even in cooked foods) I am not overweight, but I am also not underweight, just a healthy 28 year old.
I hope to receive lots of input on this, because I get confused from time to time about mixed messages concerning whether it is normal/good to eat such high amounts of foods, and in my case, eating until I get physically ill just to avoid binging on cooked foods (because if I eat until I can no longer fit anything into my stomach... cooked food no longer looks tempting, because NOTHING looks tempting at that point ;))
What is very interesting to notice in myself is the following change/evolution... the more I learn, and on this lifestyle it is like you never stop learning, the more facts and studies I read, the more lectures from Dr. Graham I watch, the less appealing certain foods have become to me (like oils for example) which does help in the binging department... but still not entirely, sometimes I still feel like just having a dirty disgusting vegan junk bingeweekend.
Following threads is a great way to learn things. I've learnt a great deal this way in the past (and still do!)
So stay tuned!
luv, Daniel <3
It is great, isn't it OrangeUlgad_Uate_abanana?
I would love to ask you about the origin of your username! :)
And yes, I do feel I am glad I ate a banana! haha xx
Ohhh now I see "orange" hahaha, nice and very silly :D
You are very welcome! It is so nice to hear other people are finding this helpful too :)
@Apollonia: Hey cool, I am living in Holland :)
@all: One sentence I read some time ago is imprinted into my brain:
"I don't have a problem with food. I have a living problem that I am trying to solve with food".
I can agree here totally. It is mostly about not having learned how to deal with bad feelings and about having a really low self-esteem, combined with perfectionism.
All the best to you,
Very wise words, steffi! You're a sage! Listen to this, Apollonia :) :) :)
I agree Steffi :)
That is basically what I keep trying to point out...
It is wonderful meeting another person from the Netherlands!x
Hola Apollonia y Compañeros
Liked very much this thread. Thanks for all your feedback. I also question myself about this topic too. Two quick thoughts:
1. I guess the "stuff yourself" strategy is specially aimed at beginners.But it can be delicate for people with eating disorders past.
2. I agree with GreenMama: luckily or sadly we, humanoids, have a BRAIN that is the cause of our joys and disasters. We can only compare ourselves to other animals to a certain extent.
It is good to have a thread up to talk about this, and I am so happy to see people reply and read along, we can all learn and grow :)