The facts about spanking:
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But have you considered that there is an underlying reason that a child would be acting in such a way that may be related to other attributes of parenting that may be lacking?
Of course. But stubborn kids (like the 6-year-old me) didn't care. There were times when nothing else worked, and I never felt "hurt or humiliated" in the long run. Long run? I'm glad it was done.
Thinking that spanking is bad comes from the same mindset as thinking dodgeball is bad...
I quite enjoy dodgeball. So long as the participation in dodgeball is voluntary, the comparison doesn't hold up. A child isn't volunteering to be spanked as part of a game.
People have made arguments that dodgeball is harmful to kids because certain kids often get singled out and are "humiliated". There are studies and propaganda videos out there, just like the spanking ones, supporting that dodgeball is humiliating. After looking at the big picture, my own personal experiences, and the evidence to the contrary, I see both points as extremist.
Spanking is one of many effective parenting methods out there that does not harm children and can be used "as part of a balanced breakfast" in the overall scape of parenting.
Bravo spankers.. way to go.. yall really turned out 'just fine'.. fine child abusers and violence promoters..
Obviously you didn't even watch the video or you just couldn't comprehend it..
You didn't bring any valid arguments, studies or numbers to the table yet. You have nothing to support your ridiculous statements.
You might want to think about what will you say to your child down the road though:
That post wasn't very mature. Please don't attack us ("child abusers") or call names because we don't agree. Since you haven't met very many, if any, of us, it doesn't really make sense to judge us, now does it? I understand that our opposing views may be seen as controversial, but I think all involved were hoping to keep this a relatively civil debate.
You say we haven't brought any valid points to the table, but I think here we must agree to disagree--you believe the evidence out there demonizes spanking, and we do not after also having viewed the evidence and having our own life experiences.
I don't attack you, I just call things on their proper name. I know that truth hurts.. maybe it's time to re-evaluate your take on the issue.. look up some studies and statistics.. oh no wait that's to much work for daddy.. let's just slap the damn kid and be done with it..
If I see someone smacking a dog I call them animal abusers.
If I see or hear someone smacking a child I call them child abusers.
There's no excuse and there's no acceptable argument when it comes to violence. Age, status, gender , weight, height, etc. doesn't matter. If it's wrong for me to smack anybody it's wrong for you to slap anybody.
'you believe the evidence out there demonizes spanking, and we do not after also having viewed the evidence and having our own life experiences.'
- I don't believe anything, I just listen to reason and evidence and you ignore them.
And give me a break with your 'don't judge me' whining.. if you haven't noticed yet this IS a Judge Zone so I'll judge you whenever I want to and please do the same. Oh wait you already do lol!
Oh the irony here...
I thought the non-spankers were supposed to be the peaceful ones...look at the hostility in your post! Very glad I was not raised the way you advocate...
Okay, I may be a lot of things, but a child abuser is not one of them! Before you start calling names, you might want to go carb up or something! You do not know any of us to be judging us. I didn't go around calling you a liberal psycho that thinks that kids should be in charge of everything. I guess you're right. Let's just give candy to kids that misbehave! That will teach the world to have true peace! Come on kids, if you push your sister down the slide at the park, you get an ice cream cone! :) The more you mess up, the better the prize will be! We never said that we beat kids, so open up your eyes the next time you read our comments!
Nor have any of the non-violent crew advocated rewarding bad behavior in children with candy or ice cream cones (raw vegan ones?).
We disagree, and evidently are all happy that the folks who feel so differently about hitting children are not raising ours.
I was being sarcastic, deary. Plus, I don't have kids. The only thing I even started out with was saying they worked for me and only family given permission to spank should. But when someone calls me a child abuser, that's kind of rude. That's the only reason I snapped. I don't know where you are from, but I'm from Texas and I'm a baptist. That's just kind of how we do things here. I'm not judging anyone else's parenting. I work as a babysitter and a pre school teacher.... I don't touch any of them. Why? Because that's not my job. I don't abuse children.
"Potential abuser" then.
Hitting children and "face slapping" as you claim was done to you, is abuse.
I guess that I just find it sad that, so long as your friends didn't see it happen, that kind of abuse was OK with you.
I hated every minute of being spanked and slapped, also other SCARY things that aren't to be posted on the internet, but that was the way their parents did things when they were kids. You are right that there may have been some questionable things that were punishments to me. There's no changing the past, but I am the woman I am today because of that. I'm actually a very patient person and a very loving person. I don't have enough self esteem to have the courage to even have kids. I don't want children to have to grow up in this world. Plus, I don't even spank my siblings. The worst I have done is just "fight" with siblings and play fight. All siblings have done that in their past. I don't know what you mean by potential abuser....