Do you "believe in" organic food?

How can you trust in your "Organic Food" after reading this:

"When is organic not organic? When the U.S. Government gets involved and allows crony capitalists to control and ruin everything
that’s good and pure is the answer.

What’s the matter with these people? Are they insane? There is a huge uproar about the term organic, as in organic food. Lots of major ‘food’ corporations want to cash in and have been cashing in. They want
to be labeled organic. Rather than become organic though, they push for
organic to be defined away. They push for non-organic to be labeled
organic. They push for synthetics to be labeled organic.

Look, if you want to become organic, then become organic. Organic is purely organic. There is no 99% organic that is 100% organic. If they want to sell stuff that isn’t completely organic, then label it as
partially organic. Label the ingredients that aren’t organic as what
they are: synthetic. If the complete product is 99% organic, then say
so. If the 1% that is non-organic is pure poison, then ban it. If it’s
questionable, then ban it. If it has been shown to be highly likely
harmless, then it will be up to those who dissent to publicize their
dissenting opinions, which should not be censored under any
circumstances.

Right now, food that is only 95% organic is labeled organic. That’s evil. That’s lying. That’s making it impossible for consumers to choose purely organic foods without having to do huge independent research.
That was never intended by the people who invented the concept of
organic foods — the ‘health food nuts.’ It is those people who came up
with the whole industry who should have been the arbiters. Too bad so
many of them sold out to the devil: the huge food corporations that
bought them up and then turned organics into 5% synthetics. What a rip
off.

Purity of Federal ‘Organic’ Label Is Questioned

USDA Organic labeled food is a system used to help identify foods that are organic. Congress adopted the organics law in 2002 after farmers and consumers demanded uniform standards for produce, dairy and
meat. The law banned synthetics, pesticides and genetic engineering
from foods that would bear a federal organic label. It also required
annual testing for pesticides. And it was aimed at preventing producers
from falsely claiming their foods were organic.

However, there is concern that the label may have become meaningless. ‘If we don’t protect the brand, the organic label, the program is finished. It could disappear overnight’ Sen. Patrick Leahy
stated.
Here are some of the revelations from the Washington Post article:

‘Organic’ beer has non-organic hops.
‘Organic’ baby food has synthetic fatty acids.
‘Organic’ milk can come from factory-like feed lots without grass.
The law required annual testing for pesticides, but USDA hasn’t enforced the requirement.
The National Organic Standards Board has approved 245 non-organic substances for inclusion in “organic” labeled food
‘Organic’ mock duck has synthetic additives to make it stringy.
Corporations Kellogg, Kraft, Coca-Cola, and Dole are big players in ‘organic’ food.

Regulators appear to see their mission as more to grow the supposedly ‘organic’ industry than to actually assure consumers are getting the organic food they paid for."

(found at this website: http://organicjar.com/2009/1545/ )

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Permalink Reply by SunWorshipper (SW) on August 11, 2010 at 11:08am

How long before Coka-Kola comes out with an Organic Soda?? - wanna place a wager on it with me?

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Permalink Reply by PK on August 11, 2010 at 12:00pm

I am very skeptical when it comes to organic foods, and for the most part do not pay double the cost for them. Even pure meat and dairy products are still bad for us do to high fat, protein, and natural hormones they contian. Then with honest veggy farmers, they have problems with cross polinization from ajoining fields and crops. Pesticides and chemicals get blown downwinds, and washed into ajoining fields with rain and snow meltoff, not to mention problems with air pollution and acid rain. I would never tell someone not to buy organic, I just don't think it is worth the double price I have to pay in my area at this time.

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Permalink Reply by SunWorshipper (SW) on August 11, 2010 at 12:51pm

I feel pretty much the same as you about it - why pay 3 times more for essentially the same product? unless you know and trust the grower you are believing in magic...everything is tainted.

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Permalink Reply by Molly on August 11, 2010 at 12:34pm

I totally agree. The system isn't working and is unfair to consumers. But mistakenly purchasing 95% organic produce with 5% poisons is still better than purchasing conventional produce that usually has many more poisons, IMO.

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Permalink Reply by SunWorshipper (SW) on August 11, 2010 at 12:49pm

Absolutely! those farmers' markets are such a scam...it's best to grow your own food, or go to the farm and investigate it yourself -- blind faith no longer works in today's world.

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Permalink Reply by Caroline Funny on August 11, 2010 at 2:02pm

Some organic companies may be a scam, but i'm still scared sh*t-less (pardon my language) to run into any GMO's and make a meal out of those. But that's just my way of looking at it. =/

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Permalink Reply by Caroline Funny on August 11, 2010 at 2:26pm

it also tastes (and smells!) much better than conventional at where i live, just out of trial and error, we keep going back to the organic, =).

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Permalink Reply by Derek on August 11, 2010 at 3:01pm

I still prefer the organic fruit to the regular stuff. It also tastes better to me imo.

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Permalink Reply by ednshell on August 11, 2010 at 5:46pm

Organic tastes better which says a lot. Too bad about the So. Ca farmer's markets. I have never run across that in Missouri's farmer's markets, I have worked there too, you can tell that everyone there is farming themselves by the conversations and the fact they tell you where the farm is on the signs they have. I also believe that the organic has way less chemicals on it, I remember reading that organic has about 10% of the amount of chemicals on them that conventional has. This was determined by testing them. I'm sure the study is somewhere. I buy mostly wholesale cases so don't pay much more than conventional retail prices and sometimes less.

So yes, I do believe in organic!!! :D

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Permalink Reply by Grok on August 11, 2010 at 5:50pm

Like I tell everyone I meet, "Crude oil is 'all natural' and organic!" Thirsty?

Some crude oil might even be vegan or vegetarian.

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Permalink Reply by Alex on August 13, 2010 at 6:14pm

haha, so is lead. so is arsenic! plenty o' natural toxins out there ;)

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Permalink Reply by Fruitlicious on August 11, 2010 at 7:14pm

Good topic!
Sometimes I wonder about the rediculous pricing. Dates, for example.
I have three varieties here, which I have compared, the right one being organic:

The organic one (from Ivoorkust, Afrika) on the right is most expensive: € 19,50/kg.
So 112 grams = 6 dates which cost each: € 0.36 cents.
They do not have a glossy surface (they aren't sulphured). They taste good, a bit dry, but they're not dehydrated.
They look smooth and blueish, really beautiful. These taste the best.

The middle one, non organic (from Israel). € 3.49/250 grams = 1 date for: € 0.29 cents.
They have a glossy surface (sulphured, altough the label on the hard plastic package doesn't say), but the texture is really soft and appears fresch.
They also taste good. I feel bad when I throw the empty package in the dustbin. What a waste!

The left one, the dates in the box (from South Africa), are € 6,49/kg, contains 60 dates,
1 date = € 0,10 cents.
They are dehydrated. I have to soak them for better digestion. They are not extra sugar coated or glossy. They are of lesser overal quality.

Now, what I'm not getting, is this. The organic ones, got the least of treatment, no sulphur bath, no dehyrdration. One would think that all these extra treatments cost more money for labor and chemicals.
So..... WHY???? .... are the organic ones more costly? I'm just not getting it.