"create calorie deficit" / "eat over 3k a day" contradictory.

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Permalink Reply by Julie on October 16, 2011 at 3:25am

i think hunger is the best thing to go by...

Permalink Reply by ednshell on October 16, 2011 at 5:15am

We have to use all of our senses to make good decisions, in body and mind.

 

Appetite is not an objective measure of how much we need to eat, it's just not reliable as evidenced by so many people who under eat when starting 811 within the first year.  Going by hunger/ appetite is one measure but using the calorie model and tracking with chronometer or nutridiary has shown to be almost essential for long term success eating 811.  

 

There are several threads on here about people coming from a background of eating disorders (ED), or even mild calorie restriction who gain before they normalize their weight.  Therefore making the decision of how much to eat based upon weight gain or loss is another tool but not the only one by any means.  Acceptance of fat gain and being a stronger person Posted by:  Adrienne D. is a good thread about that.

 

Using objective measures, chronometer to track and using the formula 10carbs per kilo of body weight times 4 for calories is what 30BAD recommends.

 From guidelines:

*  We do not subscribe to the concept of "waiting for true hunger" before eating, we find this advice subjective and potentially dangerous for our members. Posts recommending this will be deleted and members may face suspension, we take this advice very seriously.

*  We recommend womyn eat at least 2500 calories from fruits daily and men get at least 3000 calories and more if one wants to live an active, passionate lifestyle.  We will not tolerate what we deem as "anti-fruit" posts or advice that recommends calorie restriction/or the suggestion that others are "overeating on fruit"

http://www.30bananasaday.com/notes/This_is_how_we_do_things_here_on...

 

 

Permalink Reply by sunwukung on October 16, 2011 at 5:41am

And cannot we consider that we must reeducate correct apetite, not hunger, in order to be able of consuming enough food guided only by desire? I usually haven't much problem eating in quite enough amounts even without blending (about 1000 calories per meal, 3-4 meals per day, by mean 3000+ calories, I think)

Permalink Reply by Eli on October 16, 2011 at 11:28am

YOU THINK? ;)

Permalink Reply by sunwukung on October 16, 2011 at 9:14pm

hahaha, I am sure I eat more than 3000 calories a day (cronometer, you know) if you are referring to that. It is the very first and very useful thing that I learned here,of course.

Permalink Reply by TheBananaGirl on October 16, 2011 at 8:48pm

Well said Shell, thanks for inserting this reminder.

The people who wait for hunger end up eating cooked food. period.

Permalink Reply by Discus Thrower on October 16, 2011 at 7:05am

Instead of facts, evidence, sometimes we need to extend trust in nature :)

But for sure, judging by results, eating raw fruits and vegetables with low fat intake works magic to recover your health and go to the next level.

Permalink Reply by TheBananaGirl on October 16, 2011 at 9:24pm

Eat as much fruit as you desire = increased motivation to be active = a lean physique over time. Be patient, listen to the lean people succeeding on this lifestyle and shift your focus onto getting fitter & healthier - not losing weight. It's really that simple.

This discussion is turning into a bit of a mish mash of confusion. I trust you have your answer. We have advised you what to do, now please follow our recommendations :)

 

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