Dr Doug's book says that IF you want to lose weight (fat) you should create a calorie deficit. Freelee reccomends eating over 3,000kcals a day.
If I eat over 3k a day, I am NOT creating a calorie deficit. I am eating more than my body burns.
Then, after reading several discussions and contradictory facts, what IS, for heaven's sake, the correct way to lose body fat constantly and progressively? Oh, and effectively.
I want facts. I want evidence. I want real information. I want to know WHAT to do. I'm confused. Help :/
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We have to use all of our senses to make good decisions, in body and mind.
Appetite is not an objective measure of how much we need to eat, it's just not reliable as evidenced by so many people who under eat when starting 811 within the first year. Going by hunger/ appetite is one measure but using the calorie model and tracking with chronometer or nutridiary has shown to be almost essential for long term success eating 811.
There are several threads on here about people coming from a background of eating disorders (ED), or even mild calorie restriction who gain before they normalize their weight. Therefore making the decision of how much to eat based upon weight gain or loss is another tool but not the only one by any means. Acceptance of fat gain and being a stronger person Posted by: Adrienne D. is a good thread about that.
Using objective measures, chronometer to track and using the formula 10carbs per kilo of body weight times 4 for calories is what 30BAD recommends.
* We do not subscribe to the concept of "waiting for true hunger" before eating, we find this advice subjective and potentially dangerous for our members. Posts recommending this will be deleted and members may face suspension, we take this advice very seriously.
* We recommend womyn eat at least 2500 calories from fruits daily and men get at least 3000 calories and more if one wants to live an active, passionate lifestyle. We will not tolerate what we deem as "anti-fruit" posts or advice that recommends calorie restriction/or the suggestion that others are "overeating on fruit"
Well said Shell, thanks for inserting this reminder.
The people who wait for hunger end up eating cooked food. period.
Instead of facts, evidence, sometimes we need to extend trust in nature :)
But for sure, judging by results, eating raw fruits and vegetables with low fat intake works magic to recover your health and go to the next level.
Eat as much fruit as you desire = increased motivation to be active = a lean physique over time. Be patient, listen to the lean people succeeding on this lifestyle and shift your focus onto getting fitter & healthier - not losing weight. It's really that simple.
This discussion is turning into a bit of a mish mash of confusion. I trust you have your answer. We have advised you what to do, now please follow our recommendations :)