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I checked on CRONOMETER, cooked lentils are rich in omega 3, do not have a lot of omega 6 and do not contain a lot of amino acids with sulphur, meaning that they alkalize the body.

So, they are healthy... no? Scare me off lentils. ;) 

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Re-read my posts, I never said cooked lentils are better than raw foods. I never said raw foods are bad. HELL, I'M EATING AN HCRV DIET! I'm just trying to get you guys to think logically, not this brainless follow-the-leader. For example, if it's really true that raw foods are better than lentils, LET'S HEAR WHY!! It very well may be true that raw foods are better than cooked lentils, but new people to this diet want to see PROOF! They don't want to hear vague statements like "raw food is better." That isn't going to convince anyone new to try this diet, I think we can agree on that. So go get some evidence and post it up here so that more people can be convinced to try this diet!

Lee and all, I never meant to provoke such a tempered arguing. :( I just wanted some scientific reason, like "cooking omega 3s makes them Illness promoting".

Well, I believe Lee Schmidt is right here - we should all start offering some more real arguments instead of just "have u read the book". 

I am on HCRV , but if I was someone who does not believe in this diet and lifestyle, most of the answers I got would just push me from this diet.... :((((

Cooking damages/devitalizes micronutrients (vitamins, enzymes, coenzymes, antioxidants phytonutrients, and fiber).  (The 80/10/10 Diet at page 61.)  At best, eating cooked food takes time and energy that would be better spent eating a whole food in its natural state.  That is why people say cooked lentils are "not optimal" and "greens are better."  But an additional consideration is that burning up the micronutrients leaves the food in a state of imbalance, which in turn can lead to imbalance in the body.

Thankyou Ameila, if Lee had read the book he would not be taking up our valuable time and energy. "I may read the book at some point in the future" Lee Schmidt

Yelling is not a successful or harmonious way to stimulate or share in conversation either Lee. "Typing in all caps or grossly enlarging script for emphasis, which is considered to be the equivalent of shouting or yelling" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netiquette.. Sure there are obvious situations when caps are required or not seen in such light.

"HELL, I'M EATING AN HCRV DIET!

LET'S HEAR WHY!!

WHY buddy. WHY?

PROOF!" Lee Schmidt

sorry i wasnt aware this was the book club. thought it was an internet forum...

After doing 80/10/10 for a month I binged on some soup and it had lentils.

Seriously, the sharp bursts of pain my gut were enough to prove to me that they are not optimal.

You may not like that as an argument, but try experimenting on yourself and you will come up with your own answers.

You say you want proof, which is why people are pointing at the book to read - we are not here to regurgitate it for you. The info is out there - this is a site based on the principles of that diet - why be here if you don't want to read the book? It's not a book club BUT most or all of us have read it - maybe there is no scientific breakdown of specific foods like lentils but it does talk about certain genres of foods.

Snappy back and forth forum exchanges are not good information - they make both "sides" frustrated and aggressive - maybe we do not have the specific answer you want - so go find them yourself. If you want to eat lentils, go ahead. If you want to eat them you will find a reason to do so, just like people find reasons for eating all sorts of stuff that is not optimal for their bodies.

People keep saying they are not optimal because they are hard to digest - greens are not (depending on the green in question) and so nutrients will be absorbed better.

Exactly. I don't see why so many people here are so argumentive and rude and want to debate things. That's one of the reasons I left 30bad (not very long ago though, but nonetheless lol). This isn't a debate club either, it's a forum for  people who are dedicated to the fruit based vegan lifestyle.

the book is not a research study. what is their source?

Thanks Lee, that is exactly what I wanted... some reasonable argument I can use.

And thanks for that "cooking omega 3" argument, really useful.  

In all my years as a vegan ive never tried to sprout, i cant seem to wait that long for food! also i would have to make giant feild to feed me!

Lentils aint bad but compared to fruit they dont come close.

Thanks Durianrider, that is my point... That they are probably the safest second option. I just wanted to see if they are anyhow really, really bad. 

Well, now I see that cooked omega 3s are bad, just like when someone cooks spinach.

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