Circumcision - What a brutal act accepted by our society

Circumcision

This is a bizarre ritual.

Something you would see in some bizarre sci-fi/ horror film.

What a stupid act.

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Permalink Reply by Matt on August 27, 2009 at 4:29pm

One of the worst is "so he can look like his father."

Then go buy a f*%$ing wig, mustache, glasses, mole, etc to also make him look more like his father.

I was circumcised, but luckily avoided it for my two sons. During a prenatal visit, when our midwife first asked us if we wanted our first son circumcised, my wife and I looked at each other and said "ya, probably." We didn't know any better. All the males in both of our families are circumcised. We thought it was the normal thing to do. BUT, after about 2 minutes of research we both knew we did not want it done for our children.

Now "the CDC is currently debating whether or not to endorse routine circumcision for male newborns in an effort to help quell the spread of HIV."

http://www.foodconsumer.org/newsite/Nutrition/250820090920_cdc_cons...
Fun Times!

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Permalink Reply by Andrew D on August 27, 2009 at 5:55pm

Yes, this is really being spread around right now. I guess that, with circ rates dropping, they need some new tissue to traffic. Hmmm, it costs money to get the amputation, then the tissue is turned around and sold for a hefty price. http://ccr.coriell.org/Sections/Search/NHFK.aspx?Ref=NHFK&PgId=202

"Products like Dermagraft-TC, which sells for about $3,000 per square foot, are grown from the cells in infant foreskins and used as a temporary wound covering for burn patients. One foreskin contains enough genetic material to grow 250,000 square feet of skin."
http://www.foreskin.org/f4sale.htm

Follow the money.

Even if they make the assumption that HIV is real and causes aids and can be spread through sex, how is routine neonatal circumcision a solution. Infants don't have sex! Its absolutely ridiculous. Too bad the doctors, scientists, and so many parents won't do the 2 minutes of research you did and figure out the facts for themselves.

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Permalink Reply by Laurie on August 28, 2009 at 4:21am

Wow, I saw the video posted recently that talked about selling the foreskins, but it didn't say what they did with them. Scary if that's really a big factor in pushing circumcision.

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Permalink Reply by PJ on August 21, 2011 at 1:00pm

Infants don't use intravenous drugs either, but that hasn't stopped the CDC from recommending Hep B vaccines for infants.

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Permalink Reply by Laurie on August 28, 2009 at 4:20am

So ridiculous!!! Grrrrrr....

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Permalink Reply by Via on August 27, 2009 at 11:01am

Yup.

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Permalink Reply by Paul on August 27, 2009 at 11:01am

i'm glad i've got a proper dick and no surgeon hacked veins & skin off my dick.

envy though of clean circumcised 8 inche penis

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Permalink Reply by 1quickprick on August 27, 2009 at 11:03am

Penn & Teller dedicated an episode of their show Bulls*** on circumcision (Season 3, Episode 28). Very eye opening, luckily for us amputees it can be reversed with reasonable success. People should probably let the kid decide later in life. The religious argument is crazy. So, your telling me god created me perfect in every way except one.

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Permalink Reply by Adam on August 28, 2009 at 7:18am

Hani

I know you mean well, but what are you talking about?

There is not a single shred of evidence that suggests circumcision can protect against STD's or AIDs. It is ludicrous to suggest it would.

If you really believe there is such 'strong' evidence, I would be interested to know where I could find some information about this.

Take care

Adam x

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Permalink Reply by Adam on August 28, 2009 at 7:32am

Hey Paul,

Thanks for the links, but I still don't see evidence. I've read them before. I think their conclusions are irrational nonsense.

Take care

Adam x

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Permalink Reply by Adam on August 28, 2009 at 8:01am

I agree, its very easy to see how someone without any understanding of how to look at research (ie. most people) could be conned into thinking that if WHO say it, then it must be well-researched, and accurate.

I like some of the things WHO say, some of the time, but I do not believe they are particularly reliable for unbiased truth. I will never forget reading about Acrylamide on their website about 4-5 years ago. The biggest load of nonsense I ever heard. Basically saying that Acrylamide may be a potent carcinogen in humans, and there is clear evidence that acrylamide is found in higher than "safe" amounts in heated carbohydrate foods, but that there's no rationale for stopping heating carbohydrates. Furthermore they expected processed food companies, whose products had the highest levels, would regulate themselves on the matter. I didnt know whether to laugh or be totally baffled.

Take care

Adam x

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Permalink Reply by Adam on August 28, 2009 at 9:26am

Hani,

WHO and CDC often produce or perpetuate flawed myths. That they say something to the public, does not make me believe that it might be based on concrete evidence evidence, nor that it is true.

The only evidence available in this area is correllation. correllation is not evidence, and does not determine causation. You can correllate anything with anything if you interpret and present the results in the right way.

You're right, I am smart. Smart enough to know when there is proof, and when there is speculation. And smart enough to know not that not everything that comes from the CDC and WHO is based on any true science or rational thinking.

As far as I'm concerned, if foreskins increase the risk of any disease, including STD's, when living a natural lifestyle, then we would not have evolved to have foreskins. We would be naturally circumcised. The reality is that they serve a purpose.

Take care

Adam x