Hey I was recently on the main room chat and got a question about calorie needs (which I wasn't able to answer very well, and reverted to posting a video of doug's).
Questions:
1.) Is the 2500 calories for women and the 3000 for men suppose to maintain weight?
2.) I've always used the subtract 500 calories a day for two pounds of weight loss a week style idea, is this incorrect? Does 811 promote a different way of calorie shortage to lose weight or something?
3.) *Most important* - How does more calories not result in more weight gain? I've heard many people saying I eat 3500, 4000, 4000+ calories a day (is this to gain weight or is there something else going on here).
Thank you for your time and help.
Excellent post PK! I just want to add one thing.
"The minimum is 2500/3000 a day. But many of our members are also athletes and do a lot of fitness training. They need to eat more calories, and that is why some of them can eat 3-5k of calories a day and sometimes still lose weight."
For this I just want to add that yes many of our member are athletes, but many of them (including myself) were no where near athletic before HCRV because we lacked the energy to do so. I know personally and many others eat above the 3000 cal range purely for the energy it provides us to be more active/athletic. I eat more to move more, not move more to eat more haha
It's a wonderful part of this lifestyle that brings out our true natural spirit.
Permalink Reply by PK on +1 Adrienne. You are right. Most members both male and female eat 3-5k and maintain or lose weight.
Peace, PK
WOW thank you SOOO Much Pk, FANTASTIC response. I will read over those links you put up and definitely reply here on this thread if I have any other questions.
To Pk and dovima, I've seen you both comment quite a bit here, I have a question about food (fruit in particular) that I was wanting some help with. May you explain the bodies process when consuming fruit (well I guess veggies too while your at it, if you could). As in we consume the fruit, the simple sugars do this, the fructose does this, and so on. I know a lot of it at this point but really want a firm grasp of it all, and would really appreciate the help.
Thank you all again :D
Permalink Reply by PK on @GetFitVegan,
We can start with the carbohydrates which are made of simple sugars like fructose and glucose and complex sugars such as the starches.
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002469.htm
When we eat the complex sugars and starches, our bodies have to do a little extra work to break them down into glucose. This also triggers insulin release and a steady stream of glucose into the bloodstream. Some of this is stored in the muscles, as glycogen, and used by the body as energy. The excess could be stored as body fat, and for many people, this translates into belly fat or a starch belly or a beer belly as well as hyperinsulinism leading to hypoglycemia and possibly long term diabetes complications. Many starchy foods like bread are high on the glycemic index.
Now most ripe fruits come loaded with simple sugars like fructose and glucose. There is no initial insulin release upon consumption, and very little insulin is released for glucose transport. Fructose can also be broken down in the liver into other metabolites.
Fruits are low on the glycemic index.
http://www.diabetes.org/food-and-fitness/food/planning-meals/glycem...
While this reference does contain some speculation and bias, it explains the journey of fructose in the body pretty well:
http://www.ajcn.org/content/76/5/911.full
Evidence that fruits may reduce insulin resistance:
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00874341
So when we eat a piece of fruit, or a head of leafy lettuce greens, our whole body wins. The simple glucose in the fruit can provide energy to the brain, muscles, and refill glycogen supplies.
Fructose may play some role in energy, but is also processed in the liver to other metabolites as the body needs.
I hope this helps. The study of nutrition can be a very complex one, this is a very condensed version.
Peace, PK
Thank you so much for the help PK I will surely read all your resources and come back with even MORE questions :D, thank you.
I've incorporated probably 300% more fruit into my every day eating, but am still lacking the caloric minimums posted here. I Love the idea of eating to move more not moving more to eat, but is not getting enough calories the reason I don't feel the FRUIT MANIA described so often here (excitement, feeling good, energy out the bananas...)
How long would everyone say it takes before you feel the hcvd jitter I've heard of so much. That FANTASTIC feeling your suppose to achieve here. Since twelve I have never eaten a largely heavy, or unhealthy diet (Sad diet, but the healthier version if that could even be said). I rarely get sick, and feel generally fine most of the time, as well as have a pretty upbeat personality. Alll of these things combined, should I expect any sort of mood difference on this lifestyle?
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