What do you guys think a woman should feed her baby if she cannot for some reason breastfeed all the time?
What if she can't at all, due to a health reason?
Permalink Reply by MADO on 
Permalink Reply by ednshell on I know Karmyn had breast augmentation and she has been breast feeding for three years :D, yay Karmyn, so I don't think that's an issue.
Permalink Reply by MADO on ALso its the type of breast augmentation. If you get under arms or under breast, belly button you are fine. But under the nipple cuts the ducts and they never get repaired. So if you have half nipple, you do not make enough milk.
But I say its all in the mind and if you have will power you can.
Permalink Reply by Karmyn on ALso its the type of breast augmentation. If you get under arms or under breast, belly button you are fine. But under the nipple cuts the ducts and they never get repaired. So if you have half nipple, you do not make enough milk.
My implants were put in through the areola and I nursed Andrew just fine for three years. As I type this I'm nursing Rainbow, my almost 3 month old daughter. :)
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Permalink Reply by B on I 2nd the wet nurse suggestion.
cow's milk is absolutely out of the question (type 1 diabetes risk), I'd say goat milk is out also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goat
The American Academy of Pediatrics discourages feeding infants milk derived from goats. An April 2010 case report [27] summarizes their recommendation and presents "a comprehensive review of
the consequences associated with this dangerous practice," also
stating, "Many infants are exclusively fed unmodified goat's milk as a
result of cultural beliefs as well as exposure to false online
information. Anecdotal reports have described a host of morbidities
associated with that practice, including severe electrolyte
abnormalities, metabolic acidosis, megaloblastic anemia, allergic
reactions including life-threatening anaphylactic shock, hemolytic
uremic syndrome, and infections." Untreated caprine brucellosis results in a 2% case fatality rate. According to the United States Department of Agriculture (USDA), doe milk is not recommended for human infants because it contains "inadequate quantities of iron, folate, vitamins C and D, thiamin, niacin, vitamin B6, and pantothenic acid to meet an infant’s nutritional needs" and may cause harm to an infant's kidneys and could cause metabolic damage.[28]
The Department of Health in the United Kingdom has repeatedly released statements stating on various occasions that [29] "Goats' milk is not suitable for babies, and infant formulas and
follow-on formulas based on goats' milk protein have not been approved
for use in Europe," and "infant milks based on goats' milk protein are
not suitable as a source of nutrition for infants.".[30]
Permalink Reply by MADO on Is that raw milk?
Yeah, there is a raw vegan book called BABY GREENS that says goats milk is the only raw vegan exception when it comes to kids.
I also heard of animals raising babies in the wild, like Anastasia said she was raised
Permalink Reply by B on lol goat's milk is not vegan. the above post suggests that goat's milk is not safe for infants. there's no reason to believe that raw milk is safe either, if anything there's just greater risk of ecoli poisoning. i'm pretty sure the anastasia story is fictional btw.
put it this way, babies who are breast fed have higher IQs and greater immunity, so they'll live much healthier lives. I really think it's worth the trouble to find a wet-nurse, I'm sure one with good eating/lifestyle habits. we're talking about the present and future quality of life of a human being here.
Permalink Reply by Barrington on Sorry to say this, but the idea of having a wet nurse on hand every time your newborn baby needs a feed is so impractical as to be hilarious, unless you can afford a servant to live in the basement to feed your kid, like the good old days...
The statistics relating to babies who are breast fed having higher IQs are just down to it being middle class mothers who make the effort to breastfeed their children. These kids are of course encouraged intellectually more and so 1 and 1 make 50 as in most statistical nonsense.
Lots of women can't breastfeed, especially with us all leaving it too late in life to have kids now. Formula is not going to kill babies, give them diabetes, low IQ, or a club foot. They'll be weaned off it soon enough anyhow and be wolfing little squares of melon and mango down.
No offence intended about any of this. I really can't stand to see women getting pressured and made to feel guilty about it either though.
Permalink Reply by Natalie on The reason people are so passionate about breastfeeding is because, just like a raw food diet, the benefits are amazing and often overlooked or dismissed as "ah, well, my grandad is 60 and doing fine he eats meat all the time!" or, "but its hard to get access to fruit and veg, cheaper for SAD diet" etc. The majority (not all) of people simply just don't realise not just the benefits of breastfeeding but the RISKS of formula....
1) formula milk is NOT sterile - powder made in a factory environment, numerous bugs and contaminants such as metal are found on testing. So despite sterilised bottles and teats, the formula is not. If you prepare the formula wrong, you run the risk of giving the baby too little nutrients or far too much, leading to kidney failure.
The bacteria in formula milk coupled with the constipation can lead to babies developing necrotising enterocolitis - where the portion of the bowel dies and needs to be surgically removed, or even causing death
So yes, formula milk HAS killed babies
2) babies get constipated far more easily than when they are on breast milk - i really feel for them when theyre howling constipated at 5 days old
3) There have been numerous studies to link diabetes with infant formula. Theory is that bovine serum albumin (found in milk) is confused with pancreatic cells by the immune system, leading to the immune system to attack the pancreatic cells giving rise to type 1 diabetes. If our adult bodies are affected by cows milk, how do you not think newborn babies are?! And people wonder why their babies are always sick nowadays.
Wet nursing may not always be practical but giving your baby donated breastmilk is as it is easily freezed.
No offence intended to you about any of this. But I just REALLY CAN'T STAND to see women getting completely misleading information then their babies in the NICU or worse because of it...
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