Just wondering if anyone uses / have used binaural beats?
I started using them about 6 weeks ago but I've not done them for the last 2 weeks. I had some trippy experiences with them and really enjoyed it. But because I haven't been using them long term I'm interested to know peoples experiences and opinions and if they have benefitted using them.
For example, I started using them to boost my Dopamine levels to help me with my alcohol addiction, but I don't know whether I 've been using them long enough to have made a change.
I would love to hear peoples feedback.
Ah, brevity is a virtue, so I understand not wanting to go on for too long. I assumed that you were mostly criticizing the market that makes such bold and unsupported statements (which I entirely agree with), but I didn't want the effect to be entirely denounced; which I see now was not your goal.
I like quality sound but by no means am I an audiophile or have any expertise in audio/music at all, so I believe that they may not entirely live up to some claims, but for the casual user like me they are a nice step up from ear buds without the large expense. And yeah, the covers are leatherette; the pair was gifted to me before I was vegan. That was a good note to make.
not recommended for studio work per se but are phenomenal headphones great for the audiophile and for DJing and non leather as i contacted the company myself its all man made materials for this model and the sound quality is very awesome punching and clear and the build quality is pretty good too as its reinforced with metal on the side sliders as opposed to cheap plastic that breaks so quickly, i burned through so many 70-$100 headphones back in my day, these I got in around 2008 still kicking strong pricey but worth every penny.
Hi Raw Zombie.
Thank you. An interesting aspect from someone who works with music.
I'll take it onboard. Can you confirm that what I'm understanding from your reply is correct (I'm not a person with high concentration and sometimes get a bit confused if the subject is out of my realm of understanding).
Because (allegedly) the frequency that the binaural beats produce cannot be heard; as the brain produces it's own sound to bridge the difference of the sounds being played, are you saying that the tones being played through the headphones disable that effect because they are not 'true sounds' due to sub-standard technology?
I really don't want to waste time and energy on something that's not effective and your input is valuable to me.
Regarding the last part of your post re: not being personalized for me; the sound the brain produces is (apparently) different for each individual. But, I suppose that if the technology isn't good enough to produce a clear sound, then this clearly blow that out the water.
To further clarify, my opinion is that using consumer grade equipment will 'color' the sound a little similar to the way one wearing auto tint glasses may slightly throw off the color balance of the picture you are seeing them through, you may be able to see the same shape picture, the color will not be exactly the same
is this a bad thing, is this a good thing ? I don't know.
but I do know what was mastered in the studio under treated conditions and what is being heard at the consumer level are two different things. if you painted a picture to be very 'bright' and you wore those above mentioned sunglasses, the visual effect of brightness you were trying to go for will be minimized and it may not be the same as intended and the same goes for sound.
what really concerns me about these types of products are the very enthusiastic sweeping claims that is that some mystical waves or combinations of secret recording techniques that ain't nobody else but them know about and this magical CD will produce X effect....... all you have to do is Pay x amount of $$$ and when put in a CD player and listen with earbuds and that's it, automagically no further work is needed?
to me it sounds like the superfood* equivalent of sonic therapy or should I say the instant Ramen approach to sound healing
"just buy my system.. add water and microwave and magically a nutritious meal appears"
also as an audio freak, I hate it when people bastardize terms, kinda like David Wolfe does with Latin/Chinese herbs calling them by their traditional names to wow gullible audiences into a state of 'health'
*superfoods are nice and cute and make money but wholefoods are best
*supersounds are cute and make money but whole sounds are best ?
i hope you can detect my playful sarcasm....
on a more esoteric side note:
I do strongly believe that music and sound can be greatly therapeutic, healing and moving.
I feel do that this "supersound" approach is a bit over generalized as there are many factors in sound as well that may not be accounted for or implemented :
*It is not natural to wear headphones:
your whole body is an instrument conducer and sound is both figuratively and Literally FELT in your body, and moving through your body...
-ever wonder why the Bass also called the 'Lows' are felt Low in your body like midsection stomach belly ?
-ever wonder why the more high pitched tones the 'Highs' or the treble is felt 'High' in your head,
pay attention next time you go to a loud concert
* Music is a spatial experience as well as an auditory one:
- this ties in with the above mentioned example music in real life is not two dimensional, but in 3D and while some really advanced expensive headphones may simulate these experiences, they cannot substitute for the real thing our entire bodies, interfacing, resonating and Interacting with sound in space and time there is no substitute.
*Everyone hears music differently
- Just like studies have shown that women generally have heightened and more finely tuned senses like for instance to visual acuity / Hue differentiation.. ie studies have shown that women can see and identify shades of red, that men cannot see or tell the difference from.
same goes with hearing sure obviously not everyone hears with the same loudness this we all know this but what we take for granted is how it is Processed for us is not the same exactly or our perception some people have greater degrees of processing sound, spatial depths, sonic textures and the like some people can't process sound in 3d... we take for granted that our experience is highly subjective although we can objectively measure and replay a tone for instance A4 = 440Hz that doesn't mean that you and what I 'hear' are the same thing..
your hot and spicy may just be a mild sauce to me.... sort to speak,
*Lack of interactivity
-There is a fundamental difference between just "pressing play" - playing and preforming as a DJ I can use harmonic mixing, phrasing, archs, flows, manipulating energy levels and proper song programming, reading the audience many different tools in my arsenal of techniques to evoke emotions that would get masses of normal ordinary people to go crazy, and lose it on the dance floor. try doing that with a just mix tape, you cannot do that even if I recorded the same live set and played it back to another gig it just wouldn't get the same effect, heck even if i played it to the same crowd it would not be the same as 'Live' as preforming is interactive, the performer feeds off the audience and the audience feeds off the performer and the and on point that connection is the more powerful and authentic is the experience....
It is no different in many other fields, like speech giving or comedians say "know your audience" there is a human interactive element involved that you cannot remove yourself from for instance you could read a self help book, but to consulate and work with a professional therapist that can gauge you is orders of magnitude better, you could download or check out a hypnosis cd but to consult a pro who can see your nonverbal cues, body language , observe your tension physically and work with your unique resistance and sticking points and guide you through to a solution is priceless and cannot be substituted
Its not just that consumer grade technology may color the effects of the magical frequencies , its that it fails to account for the myriad of other elements that fit into the equation....
If you really are interested in sound 3d spatial sh-t, I cannot recommend enough the DVD
The art of mixing a visual guide by David Gibson below is a review:
that DVD is so cheese and ridiculousness, and so TRUE!! so many gems that makes you think about sound, you don't have to be a sound engineer to love it!!
I have been checking out his works here and there over the years and hes now into some sonic therapy using 3d sound and recordings and such....
I may not agree with David Gibsons perspective or anyone for that matter 100% but he is a pioneer in many respects a great teacher, Id love to interview him some day....
Love your passion RZ! have you read Rick Snoman's book on EDM production? He has some great stuff on mixing in there, and some great DVDs as well.
dude, hells yes, ricksnowman is boss!! I ordered his DVDs too! and I have his book on edm the first edition!!! bought it years ago still look at it to this day!
Love your posts Raw Zombie.
So informative and, yes, I do get your sarcasm.
Maybe I should just concentrate on getting my phenylalanine and tyrosine from my foods. I'm tracking my foods on cronometer and the levels of both are being hit daily.
Yeah, this diet could possibly cure all.
I appreciate the amount of information here, but I'm not sure it's really relevant to binaural beats.
a. Humans have a spectrum of hearing ranging between about 20 Hz to 2000Hz
(as we age it generally gets worse due to loud sound exposure etc)
many of these “magical healing” frequencies are far below or above our natural hearing range which again degrades over time…….. :P
Most of these "healing" frequencies are in the range of 400-500 (ish) Hz so they fall well within the range of human hearing. But either way these are not the same as binaural beats.
completely flat reproduction of sound --meaning they accurately reproduce soundfrequencies evenly across the audible hearing spectrum without any 'coloration' no boosts or bass compensation, just pure sound.
I might be wrong, but it's my understanding that the frequency response curve measures dB levels as the frequency is changed. So even when the curve isn't flat, the frequency is accurate.. it's the intensity that fluctuates. I don't see how this is really an issue since binaural beats depend on the frequency.
And even if the frequency is not what it's supposed to be, binaural beats only rely on the difference of the frequencies between the two tones. So as long as the frequency error is more or less constant over that small range, the effect would still work.
I highly recommend them. I used this program: http://www.meditationprogram.com/meditation/
I think the reason it worked well was that it progresses slowly from higher to lower frequencies over a period of weeks. It requires a daily commitment but the results are very noticeable, especially when you get to level 8.
Hmmm, interesting. Thanks for your response. It resonates with me more than the other post, but I'm not sure if that's because I want to believe. That's not to 'dis' your opinion, just that I'm not yet understanding. I love the fact that I'm getting hands-on experiences / opinions rather that trawling the internet. Thanks guys.
Let me clear up for everyone how I understand binaural beats work. From what I have read the bridge that the brain creates between the 2 frequencies targets specific areas of the brain. To me, that means that is has nothing to do with our hearing and there is nothing external affecting the effects. I'm under the impression that the waves literally stimulate the brain, therefore increasing activity in that area.
Am I understanding this totally wrong?
I'm no expert but here's what I think..
The end result is purely "brain stimulation", like you said, but you need ears for the vibrations to be perceived by your brain. So no, it doesn't really matter what you are hearing, but your brain relies on the ears to transmit the input to it.
Anyone else have experiences they can share?