Hey all! What are the best greens to eat? I'm trying to make up for not getting enough calcium in the past, and so I've been doing kale, spinach, and parsley, but I've heard some people say on here that kale and spinach actually aren't good for you, and that LETTUCE is the best green - but isn't lettuce rather low in nutrients?
just look up what greens wild elephants eat, if it works for a massive animal like that, it should work for a small mammal like a human right? I think they eat a lot of grass, so perhaps juicing some wheat grass would be a good idea if that's allowed on 80-10-10.
anyways, that's just a theory of mine, maybe it's completely different for humans
When eating, we have to look at the complete picture of human health.
Kale and spinach are high oxalate which may do more harm than good when consumed. Sure, the spinach may look high in calcium, but most of that calcium binds with the oxalate and is escorted out of the intestine thus useless for human bone development. Oxalate is a poison to humans and can cause the following side effects:
Side Effects of Consumption
Eating foods high in oxalate may cause the following symptoms: breathing difficulty, burning in the mouth, burning in the throat, coma, diarrhea, eye pain, kidney stones, nausea, red-colored urine, seizures, stomach pain, vomiting, and weakness, esophagitis, slurred or unintelligible speech, laryngeal edema, pain and edema in the tongue.
Oxalic acid poisoning may involve the following symptoms: abdominal pain, burns and blisters if acid contact is made, collapse, convulsions, kidney problems, low blood pressure, mouth pain, shock, throat pain, tremors, vomiting, and weak pulse.
If extremely high doses of oxalate are consumed, death can result.
Read more: Oxalate Health Impact
Lettuce greens are very low in anti nutrients, and what nutrients there are are more accessible to the body.
Benefits of lettuce greens include:
Higher Mineral Content of Greens Compared to Some Fruits
Calcium Phosphorus Ratio 1:1
Chlorophyll and Magnesium
Cobalt and Vitamin b12 Precurser
Green Consumption in Primates
Prevention and Healing with Diet
Benefits for Bodybuilders
Edible Greens: Leafy Lettuces
Read more about why, how much and what kind of greens to eat here:
Hope this helps. Peace, PK
thank you so much! That was very informative, and helps explain why I felt so bad when I was juicing kale.
@Sarah. You are welcome and hope it helps. Peace, PK
how about parsley?
Outside of a tasty treat to warm up a salad, parsley is not recommended. According to the University of Pittsburgh Medical Center (UPCM), yes parsley is high in oxalate and is high on the list along with spinach, rhubarb, and kale. (Here)
And last but not least, a question to ask ourselves when choosing a food is if we can make a meal out of it. Parsley would be very difficult for most of us to eat in large amounts.
Jeez, PK, you are good! :)
I have never had a problem with spinach or kale either.. According to the Boutenko's, as long as you are rotating your greens the oxyiclates don't build up. So one week I might do kale in my smoothies, the next collards, the next turnip greens.. ect ect.. I do eat romaine lettuce though.
I cannot comment on the teachings of Boutenko, but I do encourage people to take a medical approach to nutrition and health.
Here is some food for your thought though regarding kale. While the oxalate might not build up, whatever calcium content is in the kale may be of no benefit because the calcium will bind with the oxalate in the intestine and pass out. What oxalate passes into the body can promote kidney stones and disorders, gout, and arthritis.
This can long term still promote bone density and or dental issues. If calcium is not available, then other bone building minerals like phosphorus and magnesium, as well as vitamin D, cannot do their job in bone building and or promotion of healthy tissues.
Kale, collard greens, and turnip greens are high oxalate foods.
You can read more at my blog posts of which I have added many scientific references:
I want everyone to thrive long term on this diet, not just survive on this diet.
i was amazed to see how much protein romaine has