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Permalink Reply by B on August 4, 2010 at 4:03pm

cooked meat may be easier to digest than raw meat, and cooking certain vegetables (brocolli, collards) certainly makes them easier to digest too but yeah for the most part raw fruits and non-starchy veggies digest the best because the plant's enzymes break down the plants fats/proteins/starches for us before we eat 'em. people will make up all sorts of myths to make themselves feel good about their bad habits.

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Permalink Reply by Greg Allen on August 4, 2010 at 3:35pm

Walking upright enabled us to remove far more heat from our brain cavity. This allowed us to grow larger brains that generate more heat and still remain sufficiently cool. It has nothing to do with eating meat. Many carnivorous quadrupeds, like cats, have smaller brains than us pound-for-pound. We humans are champion heat removers: a highly trained human can outrun most horses at 50km or more, all because we eliminate heat so efficiently.

NPR was largely gutted by Bush and his gang, so now they spew endless right-wing nonsense. It's really a right-wing myth that the press, even NPR, is liberal minded. Groups like FAIR have done numerous studies that document the center right bias of NPR and other corporate media. Its all about the Benjamins.

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Permalink Reply by Kristie on August 4, 2010 at 9:56pm

Raw Vegan Runner: My uncle was diagnosed with cancer and his so called spcialist advised him to increase his red meat consumption. It certainly did not 'heal' anything, he is no longer with us.

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Permalink Reply by raw~vegan~runner on August 4, 2010 at 10:58pm

Kristie, I am so sorry...:( that breaks my heart. My dear, dear friend was diagnosed with a very aggressive form of cancer 2 years ago(she is also gone) and I tried to very gently inform her of the benefits of eating raw, even just drinking smoothies and green smoothies...she did go vegan but still ate alot of cooked. Would raw have saved her(or your Uncle)? I don't know. What I do know is I do not see sick people who are raw, or lfrv unless they were ill before they started on this lifestyle.

I think the picture is actually bigger than simply eating meat(though that is an issue, imo)Its the fact that people (and I am generalizing)are so lazy. EVERYTHING comes in a box or package. Yes, people cook their meals...but the meals are meat and processed foods that came from a box that have had their nnutrients processed right out of them. Lets say meat has SOME redeeming quality (I don't believe this, but for sake of arguement) people are combining it with some over-processed grain, and maybe some overcooked veggies drenched in chemical sauces. Wash it down with something that can disolve nails and you're good to go. And ya wonder why you are sick/tired/overweight???

We have made all these advances in 'science' yes...but why then are all the 'smart' people going back to cooking from scratch, becoming veg/vegan/raw, growing their own food....hmmm...

I know several people who when they were younger and poor their families hunted for their food. I do not condone this, of course, but I understand. I respect people who do what they have to to survive. They were not educated, and did not know any better. Sometimes the option to grow food is not there, or some are not versed in gathering wild edibles. When you know better, you do better...and one of these people is now a vegetarian. Its a start...

Most of the people in this country, even those who are poor/limitted income, could make their dollar stretch further and feed their family more healthfully by eating more raw. They don't. Sigh...

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Permalink Reply by Jet Sung on August 5, 2010 at 4:12am

Totally know what you are saying, my friend's family eat the way you have just describe the american way of eating (can beans, super processed meat, frozen overlysprayed veggies, tons of breads and grains, cheese, chemical sauce, microwave everything) dad got his large intestines cut out last year, and his mom's got breast cancer, and my friend is a very very sick puppy right now. So I show him how to eat lfrv and both of his parents question the way we eat and thinks that its strange. People are so incredibly programmed by our massively mind numbing culture it seriously blows my mind away.

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Permalink Reply by Kristie on August 5, 2010 at 3:39pm

Thank you. I'm sorry to hear about your friend.

It has been a cancer filled two years for my immediate family. June 2008 I lost my dad, June 2009 I lost my nan, and June 2010 I lost my uncle.

I always believed that the more we remove foods and 'medicines' (well everything really) from its natural state we are complicating matters. That is how I came to find this site. After reading 80/10/10 I was so relieved. Finally someone talking about health and making sense. Instead of making things more and more complicated it was going back to basics, back to nature.

My mum and her brothers all have health issues relating to their digestive system. Thankfully my mum is in the same frame of mind that I am and making some steps in the natural direction. After speaking to a specialist we found that there are certain genes in Irish and Scotish decendants that can increase the risks or certain cancers. Unfortunately Dad's side was Irish and Mum's Scottish so I am taking matters into my own hands.

I'm hoping that once I have been raw for a substantial period of time that the results will speak for themselves and I can persuade those that I love to follow...

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Permalink Reply by SuperduperCucumberLover!..=) on August 5, 2010 at 4:26am

This is someone a lot of people wouldnt normally listen to because he is a preacher- but you've got to listen to this- he's got the whole download about this. The thing is it is much bigger than just hearing the info because people are so addicted. How to get past that- help people get past that is the hardest thing to me and the biggest question. It makes me think about more raw vegans getting educated in hypnotherapy so we can help people deprogram from the addictions that have been created in us by media and chemicals pumped into foods and our bodies.

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Permalink Reply by Sara on August 5, 2010 at 4:37am

UGGH the whole tone of that article is repulsive:

Sorry, vegetarians, but eating meat apparently made our ancestors smarter — smart enough to make better tools, which in turn led to other changes, says Aiello.

Plus it doesn't even make sense! How did we get the meat before we had tools - killed the animals with our bare hands? Stole it from dogs and hyenas? Well if gross raw meat made us so smart, why did we then have to start cooking it in order to get all that "nutrition" from it? And if we need tools to make us able to eat the food cats and dogs do, how can they say our bodies have "evolved" to digest it?

My sister-in-law sent this article to my husband. Does anyone know of an article or something opposing this that I could send back as a riposte? Grr this makes me really mad for some reason, I know she thinks I am so weird for eating this way. And I hate how much meat, cheese, and sugar she lets her kids eat. Just UGGH!

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Permalink Reply by Greg Allen on August 5, 2010 at 2:52pm

The meat thing is a bunch of bologna; check out my post right after this one. Big brains are a result of bipedal- ism.

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Permalink Reply by Greg Allen on August 5, 2010 at 11:17am

"According to the radiator hypothesis, evolution of the cranial radiator released a thermal constraint that previously kept brain size within ape ranges. Since larger brains are associated with greater cooling needs, they were selected for in conjunction with elaboration of a vascular mechanism for keeping brain temperature within safe limits. In a sense, the human brain (like the engine of a car) has a radiator that prevents overheating (Falk, 1990)."

"What accounts for the different pattern of cranial blood flow that occurred in A. africanus compared to other early hominins in response to altered gravitational pressures associated with bipedalism? Possibly, gracile australopithecines slept in trees at night, and ventured into "mosaic" regions that included open grasslands during the day. Bipedalism would have allowed these little hominins to minimize the amount of body surface that was exposed to overhead sun, thereby reducing heat loads and facilitating adaptation to thermally stressful savanna habitats (Wheeler, 1988). If so, the vasculature of gracile australopithecines became modified in response to gravitational and thermal pressures that were associated with refinement of bipedalism in hot, open habitats. The result was the beginning of a cranial radiator network of veins that could help cool the brain under conditions of intense exercise. More important, once in place, this system was itself modifiable and capable of keeping up with the increasing thermolytic needs of an evolving (enlarging) brain."

Here is a link to one of Dr Falk's papers that explains how bipedalism (and associated cooling efficiency) allowed human brains to expand and change qualitatively.

http://www.anthro.fsu.edu/research/falk/concepts.html

I might ad, large brains may prove to be an evolutionary dead end. We are, after all, only one bad choice away from nuclear obliteration. I'd say when it comes to the value of large brains, the jury is still out.

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Permalink Reply by Greg Allen on August 5, 2010 at 11:40am

The adoration of large brains has the stench of specie-ism to me: "intelligence" from large brains makes us so superior to the other small brained animals, we should just use those inferior creatures for our own devices-like killing them for food. Kind of makes you wonder what big brains and so-called "intelligence" really mean?

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Permalink Reply by kenny on August 5, 2010 at 12:48pm

i love the part about dining with hyenas. could you imagine one of our ansistors squezing in between a few hyenas to get his part of the kill. i dont think he would survive very long. lions and hyenas kill each other over a meal

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