I am trasitioning from a no overt fat cooked vegan diet and I really want advice from someone who has done the same, because I am having more nausea eating this way and the more cooked no fat added starch I eat the better my digestion seems to be. I still have colitis but the nausea is worse on fruit! I am beginning to think this is not the best rout for curing colitis.
Nausea is detox. Look at how 'cleansing' fruit is. Its lets the body 'clean house' like no other staple.
So, it will go away then if I stick with it? hope so "it sucks!"
Detox makes sense, thanks for the reply .
Stick with what works for you. I'm not strictly raw and if you're body isn't doing well with the fruit then don't eat it.
Seconded. Excellent transition book.
I will get the book! thanks
It sounds like detox to me... I came from a low fat cooked vegan diet of around 10 years and didn't have nausea on this diet but definitely had various detox symptoms over the last few years... I am most definitely doing and feeling better on fruit than on low fat cooked vegan so personally I would say keep/stick with it, do it at your own pace, you've got to find your own way with it for sure, but I feel like it is totally worth it... xx
Sorry about the colitis problem, but good news, you may be able to control and or even cure it!
I personally did not come from a starch background as I learned early on in my life that grains made me feel ill and or put on weight, so I avoided them.
But I can tell you my experiences in dealing one on one with some other BaD members.
Have you tried a fruit island, like bananas or mangoes only for about a week? This has cured many problems our members have had with digestive upsets and disorders of various kinds.
I think it will be worth it for you to try to go fruitarian and get well. Yes, you might have some temporary growing pains, but it will be worth it long term.
Starches from some things like potatoes can also make some of our members a little nauseous after eating a pure diet for some time, so avoid the root veggies like poatoes.
The problems with grains is that long term, they can cause tooth decay, hardening of the arteries, kidney stones, cause and or slow cancer healing, Crohn's disease, irritable bowel disease, celiac disease, arthritis, irritable bowel disease, and what you are referring to here, colitis (I did edit).
Grains also do not mix well with fruit.
Therefore, I advise you not to try to transition and mix two or more diets together.
For more inspiration, you might like to read this free ebook:
Improving on Pritkin: You Can do Better By Ross Horne
This book follows Ross Horne and the people he counselled from a SAD diet, to a low fat grain based diet, to ultimately finding the best results in a low fat raw fruitarian diet.
You can also (re) read our banana wagon tour for what works. I am not sure of everything you eat, but some people cannot eat things cruciferous veggies like brocoli.
and a list of naughty and nice veggies:
One more thought, there are some products like teas, coffess, garlic, onions, spices, etc that make many of us sick too. Read more about why we say no to such products here:
Good luck and Peace, PK
thanks,I never could do grains even rice my gut is so raw my eyes become blood shot red an hour after I eat them! so I just eat beans and sweet potato! thanks guys!
Beans are not recommended on 811 for various reasons even in cooked forms.
First of all, beans and potatoes still have a high protein count which could lead to future problems with cancer, kindey stones, and kidney and bladder problems.
In their raw form, beans are toxic to humans. In their cooked form, some of the toxins may be broken down, but our digestive systems still have difficulty with them with one of the famous side effects begin gas, which may also lead to bloating and abdominal pain. Some people cannot digest them fully and may have BMs with partially digested pieces, and or loose bms borderline on diarhea.
I recommend you purchase the 811 book by Dr. Graham as it is a wonderful tool in explaining human anatomy and physiology, and rules out diets not suitable for humans, and proves why a fruitarian diet is optimal.
I parahprase Dr. G's ideas regarding starchy tubers and potatoes and beans.
Tubers...humans naturally abhor dirt, do not have the proper anatomy of animals that dig up and eat tubers, we have to cook them, but in nature, we would not have cooking tools.
Legumes aka beans...in nature, very few animals eat them, mostly birds and pigs, they are indigestible and toxic in their natural mature state, for humans not palatible and toxic, protein count possible too high and high in methionine which contains high amount of acidic mineral sulphur.
High carb and protein levels make them difficult for humans to digest leading to gas and possible compromised digestion, lack of vitamin C make a poor food choice.
From a standpoint of taste, nutrition, digestion, and toxicity, legumes simply do not make a viable food option for humans.
This is just one example of the problems caused by the seemingly innocent white bean:
The phaseolus vulgaris from white kidney beans, although one-third less toxic than red kidney beans, can cause symptoms with as few as four or five beans ingested. These symptoms can include extreme nausea and vomiting, diarrhea and abdominal pain, according to Food Reference.com. The severity of the poisoning is related to the dose ingested and can occur as a result of improper cooking practices. "Science Daily" warns that the white bean diet is not recommended for pregnant women or diabetics because of the risk of it lowering blood sugar.
And here is some info on damaged and or green potatoes:
Problems with cooked foods and the break down of proteins (of which potatoes and beans are high in)
As some of us have mentioned, try to avoid doing a transition and go 100% on a low fat fruitarian diet and try not to mix and ride two bikes with one bum.
If one type of fruit is irritating, try another one. But do keep in mind, as your body heals, you might be able to even eat the fruits you think are irritating to you now.
Cure your colitis:
Also, try cutting out the starch altogether and just going with fruit. If you are not 100% raw you are almost guaranteed to experience problems simply because mixing high-fruit and any other "diet" do not work. You cannot ride two bikes with one bum. You cannot ride two horses at once. They will clash and not let you go where you want to go (the magical land without colitis or nausea). 30BAD does not recommend transitioning simply because it does not work.
Rather than high-density like bananas and dates, you may want to spend more time with juicy stuff like citrus, melons, etc.