811 question: what is the energy cost to process/store carbs vs. lipids.

If I understand the 811 "diet" (as of its Latin definition of diet=lifestyle) it relies on the fact that the human body is extremely good at storing fat from foods but not very efficient at storing carbohydrates.

As such, I suspect that storing 1 calorie from fat (lipid) probably "costs" no more than 1 calorie (most likely in sugar) while breaking down 1 carbohydrate probably costs more than one calorie. This would explain homeostasis and why people on 811 look "better" than people on SAD. As such, this would also explain why overeating on 811 lvrf is simply not possible (assuming non-consumption of processed foods, like bread for instance which is 811 but not lvrf); same thing with fruits and fruitarians, whom, if this above statement is correct can not overeat.

Now if I may ask, do we have any document or study on how many calories are required to process and store fat vs. carbohydrates? I understand that this might be different based on the individuals' dna, but even a rough estimate would be useful.

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Permalink Reply by Jason Ibanes on June 29, 2010 at 6:13am

Why interests are to understand nutrition, not to lose weight or anything, as such, I would like to understand the energetic costs of storing fat depending on its source.

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Permalink Reply by Kristina on June 29, 2010 at 6:13am

LMAO!

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Permalink Reply by goj gojind on June 29, 2010 at 8:35am

try reading about glycolysis

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Permalink Reply by B on June 29, 2010 at 7:02am

dietary fat may be easier to store than carbs but that does not mean that the body doesn't store carbs efficiently at all. people who become overweight eat diets high in fat, particularly animal products but refined vegetable oils also and high in refined carbohydrates (flour and sugar). low carb, high fat diets can work for weight loss because of under eating carbs basically. this is not sustainable nor healthy of course. but it's too much carbs + a high fat diet which makes you fat, not the fat or carbs alone. consuming lots of calories of animal products is a different story, but it's not because of the fat alone, see below.

eating a low fat high carb diet means our cells are able to uptake oxygen more efficiently and burn excess calories as heat rather than storing them as fat. animal products also facilitate fat storing (believed to be some hormone or protein), which is why omnivores on avg always weigh more than vegos.