You may have noticed a fair bit of pro-cooked food talk on 30BaD lately. There's even been backlash against those who've suggested that discussions on cooked food should not be permitted on this site. All this is understandable given that for those in the northern hemisphere it is winter time, and under these circumstances staying raw may present many challenges. For many of us all this can be seemingly too overwhelming to stay 100% raw during the winter months.
Now it is of course your choice whether you want to be 100% lfrv, high raw, or whatever, but this site's primary intention is to encourage and support those whose goal it is to be 811rv 100%, wherever you live, ideal climate or not. Those who are vegan and/or high raw are of course still welcome here. However it should be made clear that discussions recommending the use of cooked food to other forum members, discussing the health benefits of cooked food, explaining why I CAN'T stay raw, questioning whether cooked veggies are actually bad for us etc. are to be discouraged. These discussions may be closed and/or deleted if deemed inappropriate.
While there are certainly far worse things we can be eating than cooked veggies, it is the conviction of the 30BaD crew and many of the most experienced frugivores here that they are far from optimal compared to our specific foods, raw fruits and vegetables. Nor are cooked foods necessary if we have access to enough ripe fruit. Even frugivores in the coldest winter climates are able to secure abundant supplies of fruits and stay 100% raw throughout the winter. Small quantities of ripe conventionally grown fruit are arguably more optimal for us than cooked veggies; certainly the former will most often taste better.
If you want to eat steamed greens or boiled sweet potatoes, that's your choice. Being vegan is probably the most important dietary choice you can make for ethical and environmental reasons. A high raw low fat vegan diet has tremendous health benefits compared to the alternatives. But virtually EVERYBODY here already knows how to cook food, and there's countless sites and support groups on the web for vegan cooking. So it seems neither necessary or beneficial to those trying to stay raw to discuss the how-to or the benefits of cooking food on this forum. It's something many of us are still trying to unlearn.
Those who are 100% raw for any length of time, as little as a month or less, virtually all agree that even the most seemingly harmless of cooked foods, i.e. steamed veggies, are not harmless to the body of a 100% lfrv frugivore. 811 is ultimately about what is optimal regarding health, particularly with respect to diet. Whether or not there is overwhelming scientific evidence to support the claim that steamed veggies are bad for us, experience and reason suggests that they are not part of an optimal human diet.
It would be understandable and make sense to choose to make dietary compromises in long term situations where there was extremely little or even absolutely no fruit available. Notwithstanding extreme poverty, few of us in the developed world find ourselves in this position too often nowadays. We are not ultimately controlled entirely by our external circumstances: staying 100% raw or eating cooked food is our choice. Either way is not right or wrong, but like all our choices they have consequences. Most of us are aware of the health benefits of staying 811rv so I won't elaborate on them here. We do encourage you to consider doing so if you haven't already, and to stick with it if you are 100% raw but are having doubts. The consequences of wise choices regarding health are health benefits after all.
Those who are AGAINST the idea of being 100% raw vegan or have absolutely no faith that it is optimal for human health would probably do best seeking another forum.
I do understand that doing lfrv 100% in a cold winter climate can be quite challenging at times; it gets as cold here where I currently live (Canada) as it does in northern Scandinavia. So I've decided to start a support group for those in colder climates to go/stay raw, BigG's 811rv Winter Bootcamp. Humans were intended to live in the tropics, particularly during the winter. No frickin' doubt about it! But that doesn't mean that any of us can't do 811 100% virtually wherever we live, until we can relocate ourselves to a more suitable location. I'm sure as heck planning to move to a warmer location as soon as I can, but I'm staying 811rv 100% until that time; I'm not going to wait for ideal circumstances to present themselves. If I decided to wait that long for going 811rv 100% may never have happened.
Whatever (preferably vegan) diet you choose for yourself, and of course we encourage you to choose 811rv 100%, we do welcome you here as long as you abide with the forum guidelines.
The 30BaD crew: Freelee, Harley, and the mods.
The intention of this post is NOT to discourage others from discussing their challenges staying 100% raw; many folks here are still transitioning to 811rv or considering whether this is right for them, and this site is intended for their support and education. It is making discussions centered around the BENEFITS of cooked food, encouraging/showing others how to make cooked recipes, and questioning whether there's any harm if I just have that one boiled sweet potato, etc. You may consider all these to be worthy topics of discussion, and that's fine, but this is really not the place for all that. That's what giveittomeraw.com is for ;)
Accountability is important, and I think it should be encouraged that we be open about our eating habits, though I don't see that it should be mandatory. The dreaded "how long since you last bite of cooked food question" virtually always comes up when someone questions the harm of cooked veggies etc. This is because usually, though not always, those who aren't 100% raw are the ones who bring up these sorts of discussions in the first place. If you fall off the wagon you are of course free to let everyone know, share how lousy eating it made you feel, beg for forgiveness etc. ;)
Edit 05/21/13: Please post all cooked food topics/questions in this group: High Carb Cooked Vegan Discussions. The main forum is for raw food support. While we do not promote cooking here, if one is unable to get enough calories from fruit or is transitioning, then eating low fat cooked vegan meals to get calories and carbs in is the second best option.
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