Please take a look and leave a comment. I am really interested in your thoughts on this:
John McDougall whose work is really impressive, has a presentation on youtube "Potatoes are perfect food". However, Norman Walker for example wrote about danger of eating starch... I dunno... :)
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Permalink Reply by Fruit fly on May 10, 2012 at 6:31pm me too, of course insted of dying i go potatos, but once i see that i much better digest and use fruit, there is no question...
Permalink Reply by James bananaman Bailey on May 6, 2012 at 9:01pm norman walker also ate cream cheese...alot of it! so to each their own...maybe??! ;) i think walker in meny, meny ways is great..but thats not to say that nor he or anyone elce for that matter has all the answers!
Permalink Reply by James bananaman Bailey on May 6, 2012 at 10:48pm if your in northen europe and your looking to grow some of your own food, then your going to struggle doing this without eating cooked food. i dont grow spuds but i do grow some veg. i actually juice a fair amont and the reason i do this is for a few reasons, (cost, organic, picked and eaten that day/week, environmental). my juices are fairly simple and are always high, high carb made up of carrots and beets, then with one or two other things added. sometimes fruit juices as well depending on how meny are available, (ie. loads that need to be eaten, fast!) but i much prefer to eat my fruit whole or put it into smoothies if i lived further south, (north east england) and could grow more fruit i would..and infact, i plan to emergrate as soon as i can. if this were the case i dout i would bother juicing much at all..(except grape and orange, pinapple, etc)!! :D
all we can do is the best with our surroundings. the further you are from our optimal geographical enviroment, (tropical/sub-tropical) the harder it is to eat a truly optimal diet. as DR says, their is best, better, good, ok, ok-ish....etc diets. i want THE best! i think to truly have that you need to live where the food, (a high proportion of the food in your diet, at least) is grown or close to it. thats not to say it can't be done further away, ie in northen europe. its just that due to the nature of how the food will be picked, (far to early) it is harder. don't fear potatos! just know their are better options...and those options are really fruity! ;)
Permalink Reply by ORGANIC811LFRV on May 6, 2012 at 9:25pm I think Dr. Graham has a lot to say about starchs not being part of a human's diet program. One of the key points is of course anythng cooked is not top on the list of nutrient-dense food. It also is considered a dehydrated item and takes water from the body instead of hydrating us.
Another point that sticks like glue to me is that we find starchs inpalatable unless eaten with fat added. Food for thought for sure.
Permalink Reply by Marina on May 6, 2012 at 9:29pm That is so true Karen! I remember after eating potatoes I would be dehydrated.
Permalink Reply by James bananaman Bailey on May 6, 2012 at 10:53pm it doesn't have to be fat. it can be herbs and spices, and sweet veg, (carrots/sweet cabbage). the more raw fiber the better to help with digestion. you'd idearly be increacing your water intake as mentioned ofcourse.
...fruit for thought! ;)
When I was trasitioning to the full 811rv, I was eating quite a bit of boiled potatoes. I felt so bloated and uncomfortable and my moods were all over the place. Once I actually threw it all up because I just couldn't take it anymore. But now it is soooo evident to me that fruit is totally the top choice! :)
Permalink Reply by PK on May 11, 2012 at 3:40am +1 Emi. This is typical feedback we get from some of our long term members.
Peace, PK
Permalink Reply by ORGANIC811LFRV on May 6, 2012 at 10:04pm Many of our past choices in history were made because of the fear of starvation and/or inadequate food supply. Eating boiled potatoes, rices, grain products etc is not sinful. LOL Just not the top of the food chain for us natural fruit and vegie eaters.
I hope you are eating a lb of greens a day also. We need those nutrients. Yummmm green smoothies! LOL
Permalink Reply by todayisforever on May 6, 2012 at 10:37pm Well i have to say that this nurtuents are for sure have a right to be part of a a societies food supply.
i do, and did eat them alyway when i was not able to stick to a 100% LFRV diet as they are high in calorie. Although its definitly different then bananas i agree ! Also for ppl wioth health problems like pancreatitis,or gallstone problems it is a recomended start up food during the recovery. And i only can agree with peter and Marina they are the basic food supply for many many people all over the world in many varieations !
Permalink Reply by Milos Stepita on May 6, 2012 at 10:52pm I eat 1,5kg of boiled organic potatoes without skin almost every dinner, with salad.
I notice that salad adds the enzymes, therefore speed up the metabolism, but still slower than fruit or raw vegetables.
I don´t notice any side effects with organic potatoes but definitely see some with non-organic ones.
I eat potatoes because quality of fruit is very low here and don´t taste good but I still try to eat fruit and juices throughout the day and get at least 2/3 of my cals from them.
I definitely recommend rather eating organic potatoes than nuts for dinner, or undereating.
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